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Post by brendanthebattler on Feb 13, 2021 18:19:25 GMT -5
G’day everyone. I was recently gifted a Homelite XL Automatic. It is in the red, green and white colour scheme (same as sweepleader’s cover pic). It’s a Terry saw out of Pointe Claire. Que Canada. Type: 10003 Serial: 1301031 Using Joyce’s sales records on that serial It would suggest the saw was built in 1962. Is this accurate? Any help identifying the year of make would be greatly appreciated and any further info would be a bonus. Sincerely, theBattler. pin.it/6LFlMxCpin.it/7Lx8PlJ |
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on Feb 13, 2021 19:39:56 GMT -5
G’day everyone. I was recently gifted a Homelite XL Automatic. It is in the red, green and white colour scheme (same as sweepleader’s cover pic). It’s a Terry saw out of Pointe Claire. Que Canada. Type: 10003 Serial: 1301031 Using Joyce’s sales records on that serial It would suggest the saw was built in 1962. Is this accurate? Any help identifying the year of make would be greatly appreciated and any further info would be a bonus. Sincerely, theBattler. pin.it/6LFlMxCpin.it/7Lx8PlJ Welcome to House of Homelite . Great looking TERRY built XL-Automatic ! Please post a picture of the ID tag, the Serial Number is missing a digit . Based on muffler design... I'm estimating a model manufactured in 1973-74 . |
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Post by brendanthebattler on Feb 13, 2021 19:53:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the warm welcome and the knowledge relating to the muffler.
The serial number is only 7 digits long.
Were you able to go to the Pinterest link?
I posted an image of the id tag there.
Couldn’t work out the Flickr business 😁
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on Feb 13, 2021 21:00:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the warm welcome and the knowledge relating to the muffler. The serial number is only 7 digits long. Were you able to go to the Pinterest link? I posted an image of the id tag there. Couldn’t work out the Flickr business 😁 I was finally able to view the image of the ID tag... sorry, old fart still using a tin can and stretched wire . The missing number appears to be stamped in-between the Type and Serial number boxes... think it's a "3" ? . +Type:10003 ( XL AUTOMATIC ) SN:3130T031 ... DOM: Thursday, May 10th, of 1973 . |
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Post by brendanthebattler on Feb 13, 2021 22:58:40 GMT -5
Thanks for the warm welcome and the knowledge relating to the muffler. The serial number is only 7 digits long. Were you able to go to the Pinterest link? I posted an image of the id tag there. Couldn’t work out the Flickr business 😁 I was finally able to view the image of the ID tag... sorry, old fart still using a tin can and stretched wire . The missing number appears to be stamped in-between the Type and Serial number boxes... think it's a "3" ? . +Type:10003 ( XL AUTOMATIC ) SN:3130T031 ... DOM: Thursday, May 10th, of 1973 .Thank you so much for your efforts and the sharing of knowledge. I really appreciate it. There’s a real sense of satisfaction and excitement knowing the DOM. |
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Post by mac on Feb 19, 2021 8:55:58 GMT -5
my leaf blower ia a UT 08110a model with serial MB 0592555. The serial number is a guess due to a damaged sticker. Can anyone help me date this machine?...thanks, Mac
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Post by rjajohn on Feb 22, 2021 22:06:42 GMT -5
I recently acquired a Homelite 410 (model 10486). This post helped me to determine that it was made June 11, 1981.
It was my wife's father's saw and has probably cut hundreds and hundreds of cords of firewood on the farm in Missouri. And it still runs like a champ 40 years later.
Question: Does any one know if I can get a bar for it longer than 24" ?
Thanks, from a dumb Missouri hick 😊👍
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Post by Mrvintage on Apr 2, 2021 19:57:42 GMT -5
Figuring out build dates on Homelites is somewhat of a struggle. This thread should give you some idea of how to do it as best is known. Homelite did not give out a lot of information but they did publish at least two documents detailing decoding some of the dates from 8 or 9 digit serial numbers. They do not work with 6 or 7 digit serial numbers. They are two versions of pretty much the same procedure however, the second one, DSM 717 from October of 1977 adds an explaination of the Lot number portion of the serial number. This explanation is why some think that when a Lot number is listed by itself on a saw, (without a serial number or just printed separately) it can be decoded the same way it is in this memo. View Attachment View Attachment View Attachment View AttachmentCareful reading of these two will give you the general idea. They are limited to only a partial time frame regarding old Homelite saws. The day of the year number is also referred to as Julian Date. A Julian calendar starts on January 1 with 001 and goes to 365 for New Year's Eve. Of course leap years mess it up a little, so there are two versions of the calendar. A one day error in a 50 or 60 year old saw's birthday may not matter too much to some. Some saws were built in Canada by Terry, they will often have a T in front or in the middle of the serial number, a guess has been made that the T in the middle is a place holder to fill in for the zero that most other serials have. They may have been trying to limit the number digits and realized that they had little chance of building more than 1000 saws a day. If they moved the T from the front of the number to the middle, they could save one digit. That can actually be a cost saver for the record keepers in the front office. Serial numbers with a T and A or B at the beginning indicate a saw that was built by Terry in 1979 or 1980 per the above documents. Notice that in a serial number, the number and letter codes for the dates 1979, 1980, and 1981 overlap using A=9, B=0, C=1. These letter codes have been seen only on Terry saws for '79 and '80 not on saws built in the USA. Joyce Wilson (chainsawlady) and her husband were Homelite dealers for over 50 years, starting in 1951. Joyce kept careful records of every saw they ever sold, including the serial number. That list has been a gold mine of information regarding figuring out at least the year a saw was built. We have not come across an actual saw on the list, but the bracketing of a given saw number by what IS on the list is a great help. The list is too long to include here but if you cannot find what you are looking for in the documents above, put out a call on the forum, someone will likely be able to help. Also, the color of a saw or some other feature might give away the build date, at least the general time frame. As noted below by jerseyhighlander, many carburetors are dated by the manufacturer. If a carb seems to be original (there is of course no guarantee of that) the date on it can give a strong clue, especially when combined with other data, about when a saw was made. The carb would have been built first, then added later to the saw on the assembly line. That means a saw cannot be dated earlier than its original carb. Post pictures of your saw, from several directions and include decals and the serial plate. There are many here on House of Homelite willing to help who have great knowledge. There are few other sources of information on serial numbers but the process of defining them continues to evolve. If you find out something not covered already, please post it, this forum can then save the information for others to use. |
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Post by Bud on Apr 8, 2021 22:42:40 GMT -5
I have a 1973 super wiz 55 and need a good carburetor man to fix the fuel pump diaphram. It blew up I guess cuzz gas goes straight into the crank case from the tank.
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Post by jzrexm on May 11, 2021 14:44:03 GMT -5
Just picked up a Super XL925. Looked at the info on the site regarding serial # manufacturer date decoding and I think I might have figured it out (not sure though).
Serial # is TB0982306, so I am thinking it was build on 4/8, 1980? The unit # tag on it says 10415 (so what does the unit tag # represent?) if the last 4 digits of the serial # indicate the sequence of the number of units built that day (in my case it was the 2306th unit built that day?
Any help is appreciated as this is my first Homelite saw.
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on May 11, 2021 15:27:01 GMT -5
Just picked up a Super XL925. Looked at the info on the site regarding serial # manufacturer date decoding and I think I might have figured it out (not sure though). Serial # is TB0982306, so I am thinking it was build on 4/8, 1980? The unit # tag on it says 10415 (so what does the unit tag # represent?) if the last 4 digits of the serial # indicate the sequence of the number of units built that day (in my case it was the 2306th unit built that day? Any help is appreciated as this is my first Homelite saw. Welcome to House of Homelite ! UT:10415 identifies the Model; SUPER XL-925 . SN:TB0982306 .. Date of Manufacture; Monday, April 7th, of 1980 . |
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Post by jzrexm on May 11, 2021 16:17:38 GMT -5
Thanks for your prompt reply. Hoping I can get her running. Guy said it had been couple years since he ran it. Had just a few ounces of gas left in it. So, gonna put some new gas in (50:1) Stihl oil mix and see if I can get it going. If not, will be researching on carb rebuild kit or new carb.
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Post by davet on Jun 10, 2021 21:23:53 GMT -5
My FIL gave me his old XL12 which he said he got used in the 80’s. I’d like to rebuild it but I don’t have much info. No stamped serial number, Lot number is C6177. There is a scratched-in serial number on top: 51382. Any help is appreciated. Attachments:
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Post by Clasec on Jun 11, 2021 21:11:16 GMT -5
My FIL gave me his old XL12 which he said he got used in the 80’s. I’d like to rebuild it but I don’t have much info. No stamped serial number, Lot number is C6177. There is a scratched-in serial number on top: 51382. Any help is appreciated. |
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Post by Bobby n. I on Jun 20, 2021 12:36:13 GMT -5
Figuring out build dates on Homelites is somewhat of a struggle. This thread should give you some idea of how to do it as best is known. Homelite did not give out a lot of information but they did publish at least two documents detailing decoding some of the dates from 8 or 9 digit serial numbers. They do not work with 6 or 7 digit serial numbers. They are two versions of pretty much the same procedure however, the second one, DSM 717 from October of 1977 adds an explaination of the Lot number portion of the serial number. This explanation is why some think that when a Lot number is listed by itself on a saw, (without a serial number or just printed separately) it can be decoded the same way it is in this memo. View Attachment View Attachment View Attachment View AttachmentCareful reading of these two will give you the general idea. They are limited to only a partial time frame regarding old Homelite saws. The day of the year number is also referred to as Julian Date. A Julian calendar starts on January 1 with 001 and goes to 365 for New Year's Eve. Of course leap years mess it up a little, so there are two versions of the calendar. A one day error in a 50 or 60 year old saw's birthday may not matter too much to some. Some saws were built in Canada by Terry, they will often have a T in front or in the middle of the serial number, a guess has been made that the T in the middle is a place holder to fill in for the zero that most other serials have. They may have been trying to limit the number digits and realized that they had little chance of building more than 1000 saws a day. If they moved the T from the front of the number to the middle, they could save one digit. That can actually be a cost saver for the record keepers in the front office. Serial numbers with a T and A or B at the beginning indicate a saw that was built by Terry in 1979 or 1980 per the above documents. Notice that in a serial number, the number and letter codes for the dates 1979, 1980, and 1981 overlap using A=9, B=0, C=1. These letter codes have been seen only on Terry saws for '79 and '80 not on saws built in the USA. Joyce Wilson (chainsawlady) and her husband were Homelite dealers for over 50 years, starting in 1951. Joyce kept careful records of every saw they ever sold, including the serial number. That list has been a gold mine of information regarding figuring out at least the year a saw was built. We have not come across an actual saw on the list, but the bracketing of a given saw number by what IS on the list is a great help. The list is too long to include here but if you cannot find what you are looking for in the documents above, put out a call on the forum, someone will likely be able to help. Also, the color of a saw or some other feature might give away the build date, at least the general time frame. As noted below by jerseyhighlander, many carburetors are dated by the manufacturer. If a carb seems to be original (there is of course no guarantee of that) the date on it can give a strong clue, especially when combined with other data, about when a saw was made. The carb would have been built first, then added later to the saw on the assembly line. That means a saw cannot be dated earlier than its original carb. Post pictures of your saw, from several directions and include decals and the serial plate. There are many here on House of Homelite willing to help who have great knowledge. There are few other sources of information on serial numbers but the process of defining them continues to evolve. If you find out something not covered already, please post it, this forum can then save the information for others to use. |
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Post by Bobby n. I on Jun 20, 2021 12:42:01 GMT -5
Hello all. I'm Bobby from Northern Ireland. I bought a homelite xl last year 2nd hand for £30. It's the first I have heard of that make tbh. It's an old saw but works fantastic. Ut no is 10517b and set no is 7d204036.
Very rare saw over here and was wanting to know if anyone could give me any info on what year it was made etc..
Thanks Bobby.
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Post by rustorer on Jul 19, 2021 14:42:36 GMT -5
New member as of today and I have learned so much already. I just inherited this saw from my father and i'm trying to figure out the details on it. ![]()  |
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on Jul 20, 2021 14:01:37 GMT -5
New member as of today and I have learned so much already. I just inherited this saw from my father and i'm trying to figure out the details on it. ![]() View Attachment Unfortunately the Serial Number does not decode. It's approximately Forty Six years old. Look for a small sticker with a 4 digit number on it, that will be the Date Code. A date stamp on the carburetor will also give the build date within a few months. |
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Post by operatoriv on Jul 28, 2021 20:41:42 GMT -5
New member that has been lurking around the forums learning what I can the past week or so but I have found myself going cross-eyed trying to narrow down when these two saws that I inherited from my grandfather would have been made. Both would have been saved from the dumpster later on and aren’t his original XL 12( i’m still working on forgiving my uncle for throwing the sentimental one away hahah) i’m sure as I get deeper into them I’ll have more questions but I’ll take those to the appropriate threads. But any insight in decoding these numbers would be greatly appreciated. The first set of pictures is the XL 12 badge and a possible cast number on the inside of the air filter cover..? Along with castings in the carburetor that I believe are date codes as well. XL-12. 3276998 ibb.co/4P7dtB1ibb.co/d08QZYLibb.co/vPXbLS5ibb.co/gSFGKm7Super XL Auto. 21520714 ibb.co/fdPT6bmibb.co/s9MZmmxI haven't dug into the Super at all but it is also a tillotson carb if it makes any difference. I already have carb rebuild kits and new fuel lines coming from Leon's and can't wait to get these old blue saws running again! |
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on Jul 28, 2021 21:03:30 GMT -5
New member that has been lurking around the forums learning what I can the past week or so but I have found myself going cross-eyed trying to narrow down when these two saws that I inherited from my grandfather would have been made. Both would have been saved from the dumpster later on and aren’t his original XL 12( i’m still working on forgiving my uncle for throwing the sentimental one away hahah) i’m sure as I get deeper into them I’ll have more questions but I’ll take those to the appropriate threads. But any insight in decoding these numbers would be greatly appreciated. The first set of pictures is the XL 12 badge and a possible cast number on the inside of the air filter cover..? Along with castings in the carburetor that I believe are date codes as well. XL-12. 3276998 ibb.co/4P7dtB1ibb.co/d08QZYLibb.co/vPXbLS5ibb.co/gSFGKm7Super XL Auto. 21520714 ibb.co/fdPT6bmibb.co/s9MZmmxI haven't dug into the Super at all but it is also a tillotson carb if it makes any difference. I already have carb rebuild kits and new fuel lines coming from Leon's and can't wait to get these old blue saws running again! XL-12 ... Date of Manufacture: approx. early-1970 SUPER XL-AO ... DOM: Wednesday, May 31st, of 1972 Welcome to HOH and thanks for keeping the questions related to Serial Numbers and Dates. |
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