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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 18:13:07 GMT -5
Well looks like I took this one on the chin too. Supposed to have been a runner but it isn’t. So I figured what the heck I’ll clean it up and fix it. First thing I pulled off was the starter cover and when I pulled the front bottom bolt out gas runs out. At that point I said to myself why not contact the seller now. Well he says he has a video of it running so there goes that then he said he thought the saw was designed from the factory to leak fuel from the starter cover bolt hole. I mentioned the bar not being correct for the saw which is why the adjuster was removed and he said he never had the adjuster installed he wasn’t aware of that. Anyway what way might there be to stop that fuel leak when the starter cover is removed
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Post by rowdy235 on Oct 3, 2018 18:19:20 GMT -5
I'm sure somebody else will be along that has more experience with the SXL-925. I can't imagine the tank being supposed to leak when you remove the starter cover though lol. Does the bolt hole go into the tank? Possibly somebody put too long of a bolt in and caused a hole into the tank?
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Post by sweepleader on Oct 3, 2018 18:55:58 GMT -5
The only thing I could think of would be seal the bolt in the hole. It is almost certain to fail again from vibration or if that bolt ever came out again. Not a good prospect for success.
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Post by rowdy235 on Oct 3, 2018 19:04:31 GMT -5
^Agreed. Perhaps split the tank and seal it from the inside?
If you decide to seal the bolt in, there's a product called "Seal all" in a yellow tube that I've used in the past with success. It can even be applied directly on leaking gas and seal.
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Post by ettrick on Oct 3, 2018 19:09:47 GMT -5
If there is enough threads, maybe you could turn in a set screw with sealant for permanent solution. Then use the remaining threads for the cover screw. might have to use slightly shorter cover screw.
Dan
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Post by Clasec on Oct 3, 2018 19:10:07 GMT -5
Well looks like I took this one on the chin too. Supposed to have been a runner but it isn’t. So I figured what the heck I’ll clean it up and fix it. First thing I pulled off was the starter cover and when I pulled the front bottom bolt out gas runs out. At that point I said to myself why not contact the seller now. Well he says he has a video of it running so there goes that then he said he thought the saw was designed from the factory to leak fuel from the starter cover bolt hole. I mentioned the bar not being correct for the saw which is why the adjuster was removed and he said he never had the adjuster installed he wasn’t aware of that. Anyway what way might there be to stop that fuel leak when the starter cover is removed You could use a stud in the hole. Use some Loctite stud mount on the tank side and let it cure a day or two. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 19:24:03 GMT -5
I might try the set screw first. For now I am going to put the saw back on the shelf as is. I contacted the seller after the list of problems grew from an ad that says "runs great" and after his response I think I will let it sit and dispute it with him. Might not do me any good but maybe he will at least have a headache
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Post by rowdy235 on Oct 3, 2018 19:29:05 GMT -5
Sorry to hear of your misfortunes. That's one reason I prefer an in-person sale, both as a buyer and a seller.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 19:43:10 GMT -5
I wish I could do in person buys I really do I just can’t find much more than a super XL around here. I found a super 1050 once and the guy said he’d take like $800 or $1000 I don’t remember now. Needless to say I missed out on that. Oh well it is what it is. I fully expect to keep the saw but in the slim chance I return it I don’t really want to do anymore to it. If I do end up keeping it though I’m certainly going to try the set screw first
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Post by onlyhomelites on Oct 3, 2018 20:24:52 GMT -5
Someone ran too long of a screw into that hole, it is not designed to leak fuel like that! Did you pay for this saw with Paypal? If so, file a claim through them or even better, if the saw came from Ebay file a claim through them. Buyer's almost always win these fights.
If he effed that up (and yes he had to know), who knows what else he's screwed the pooch on. Honest mistakes happen (God knows I've made some!), but the excuses he's given you on the adjuster and the fuel tank screw tell me that this was someone who shouldn't be working on saws to sell as runners!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 20:30:55 GMT -5
Someone ran too long of a screw into that hole, it is not designed to leak fuel like that! Did you pay for this saw with Paypal? If so, file a claim through them or even better, if the saw came from Ebay file a claim through them. Buyer's almost always win these fights. If he effed that up (and yes he had to know), who knows what else he's screwed the pooch on. Honest mistakes happen (God knows I've made some!), but the excuses he's given you on the adjuster and the fuel tank screw tell me that this was someone who shouldn't be working on saws to sell as runners! Well there was more lol I am almost positive a carb mount screw is stripped but that wasn’t what I was going to tell you about. When I opened it I saw a parts list and I thought “cool a parts list, that will be my first one”. Upon further examination it was not original parts list it was printed off of a computer with Leon’s watermark across every single page |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 20:32:04 GMT -5
Oh and it was eBay I have already started the return process
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Post by onlyhomelites on Oct 3, 2018 21:55:38 GMT -5
When I opened it I saw a parts list and I thought “cool a parts list, that will be my first one”. Upon further examination it was not original parts list it was printed off of a computer with Leon’s watermark across every single page Now I really dislike this seller! |
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Post by rowdy235 on Oct 3, 2018 22:00:12 GMT -5
Not to get too off subject but would you PM me the seller info, sounds like somebody I'd like to avoid
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 20:35:06 GMT -5
Well a bit of good news today. After a waiting period with ebay and then ebay getting involved I finally received a response from the seller "Sorry for the delay I too am open to a partial refund, what do you have in mind?" So I told him after the situation surrounding the deal and the condition of the saw that I felt a 50% return was fair. He accepted almost immediately so I do have a new superXL 925...with a fuel leak. In other good news the stripped carb screw that I thought I have is actually the inserts in the plastic intake manifold have come loose in the molding. I'm going to try and find one of those now. I have torn the saw down now and I believe with a carb kit and new intake manifold it might just be a good runner. I will later take the paint off of the bow bar and see what I can find as far as identification. I do have a question though, what was the idea behind a clutch mounted like that On the super XL 925? It has a rim sprocket on it but I guess even with that I have to remove the clutch to replace it.
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Post by rowdy235 on Oct 12, 2018 20:57:03 GMT -5
That's great news!
I think the original reason behind the "inbound" clutches as I refer to them was to add strength. It's a lot harder for something to break when you have the entire clutch holding the drum in place and the clutch drum can ride on a fairly big bearing over the crankshaft. I have seen some newer "orange colored" saws with an "outbound" clutch have the very end of the crank shear off, rendering it pretty much useless. The crank's cheap enough but the labor to tear down the entire saw and replace is not.
I think the advantage to the rim sprocket was to be able to replace just the drive gear and not the entire clutch, and to some extent allow you to switch pitch quicker.
Maybe I am misunderstanding your question?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 21:34:24 GMT -5
I was just saying it looked like I would have to remove the clutch just to change the rim sprocket. Other saws I have with the rim sprocket you just remove the outer nut and the rim slips off the drum. It’s not really a complaint lol as I’ve said before I really no longer have much use for a saw but that won’t stop me from stacking them in my garage. I do tinker with some firewood from time to time though. I cut up a big red oak that fell in a fence at my dads place. I only did it for three reasons though. 1. It helped him and needed cleaning up 2. I wanted a reason to run a Homelite and 3 I brought home some of those 40” and larger diameter blocks to split with wedges and malls. Makes pretty good exercise I don’t burn any firewood but I will give it away to neighbors around here for their fire pits in their backyards
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on Oct 12, 2018 21:40:41 GMT -5
Leon has a previously owned intake manifold part# A-67640-1 ...(no new found yet)
Does your Super XL-925 have the optional 6 shoe clutch ? or standard 3 shoe ?
They were both of the outboard design.
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Post by edju1958 on Oct 12, 2018 21:48:45 GMT -5
John,I don't know what's involved with tearing down the saw to replace the fuel tank,or the availability of another fuel tank,but did you think about replacing the tank?I'm sure it wouldn't be an easy task,but once replaced,you'd have yourself a runner for sure,& you wouldn't have to worry about springing another leak. Ed
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 21:56:50 GMT -5
It looks like it has the 6 piece clutch however I haven’t removed the little cover from it yet. Just looking at the edge of the shoes though it looks as if there is 6 in there. As far as the tank leak goes it definitely was a longer screw put in there that punched out the bottom of the hole. I believe I’m going to try the set screw first. If it works I shouldn’t have anymore leak problems and I am sure it will work because the screw for the starter cover does seal the leak itself
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