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Post by MCS on Jul 12, 2009 12:30:31 GMT -5
I'm starting this thread so it will collect everyone's input on the East West designation. I really don't believe it has anything to do with the size or trees the saw is expected to cut, but maybe things like safety or fire hazard had something to do with it. Here's a start: A very early 150 IPL cover page with no reference to East West  A later parts list refers to three configurations and also a reference back to the first IPL for older saws.  In the E version, the case is slightly different to support a rubber covered rear handle and the front handle is rubber covered. The W version has a spark arrestor muffler and a shield. The E version seems to be comfort and W version seems to be safety. My 750 refers to two configuations:  The only thing I see on the 750 is the E has a trigger lock in the rear handle and the flush cut handle. Maybe by this time all saws had spark arresting mufflers so the difference isn't identified. Does anyone know if there were any regulations in the west that mandated certain equipment? |
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Post by cbfarmall on Jul 12, 2009 17:15:16 GMT -5
Can I get one of those 750s at that price on the IPL?
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Post by werners on Jul 12, 2009 17:28:29 GMT -5
Is it possible that the "E" stands for europe?
But I don't think so
Maybe the "W" all have the spark arrestors and security functions?
It's maybe necessary in california
My 750 has the trigger lock
Again, sleep well - good night
Werner
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Post by lesorubcheek on Jul 12, 2009 20:51:54 GMT -5
The 330 W is another example where about the only difference was the exhaust. It sure does look like a regulatory issue of some sort.
Dan
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Post by MCS on Jul 12, 2009 21:06:10 GMT -5
Is it possible that the "E" stands for europe? Werner Now that's an interesting thought  |
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Post by MCS on Jul 12, 2009 21:19:55 GMT -5
Can I get one of those 750s at that price on the IPL? When I picked up my 750 I got the owners manual too. The original receipt is stapled inside the back cover. The saw was $645.91 with $25.84 in sales tax. It had a 28" bar when I got it. |
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Post by billg on Jul 13, 2009 2:46:35 GMT -5
Now I sure wish that was true today. Wanna take a guess at what the Wiz 66 cost?
Bill
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Post by mikevan on Jul 13, 2009 5:21:16 GMT -5
I wonder where the "line" would be for east/west versions? The Rocky Mts? Mississippi river?
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Post by lesorubcheek on Jul 13, 2009 8:57:30 GMT -5
When I picked up my 750 I got the owners manual too. The original receipt is stapled inside the back cover. The saw was $645.91 with $25.84 in sales tax. It had a 28" bar when I got it. From one online inflation calculator, here's the result: "What cost $645.92 in 1980 would cost $1666.67 in 2008"  So, yep, 650 bucks for a new one today would be sweet, but at the time, that was a chunk of money. I remember ~ 1980 a nice new car was about $6000. Dan |
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Post by billg on Jul 14, 2009 2:44:50 GMT -5
In June 1978 a new Ford F150 4x4 6 cyl 4 speed was $5500 on the road. Still have the truck today. The NOS saws are still around.
Bill
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Post by lesorubcheek on Jul 14, 2009 7:06:25 GMT -5
My Dad has a '78 C-10. Don't remember what he paid, but it did its share of work. Its still around too, but doesn't get out too much here lately.
Dan
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Post by billg on Jul 15, 2009 3:05:59 GMT -5
I have posed some NOS saws before but never got much interest in them. I finally let the 550 go cheap and the 150 was decent. Ther more desirable saws are more. I wish I had a NOS 750
Bill
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Post by lesorubcheek on Jul 15, 2009 6:43:05 GMT -5
Think it goes to show that buying a new saw as an investment with plans to sell it in the future is about like buying a lottery ticket. Odds are, you won't get you're money back, especially considering inflation.
Dan
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Post by mikem on Jul 15, 2009 15:23:20 GMT -5
Even purchasing old saws hoping to get your money back(after getting them running) is pretty risky. I just learned an expensive lesson with a great looking ZIP. Could not even get back what I have invested in the saw & parts.
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Post by billg on Jul 16, 2009 2:41:55 GMT -5
Think it goes to show that buying a new saw as an investment with plans to sell it in the future is about like buying a lottery ticket. Odds are, you won't get you're money back, especially considering inflation. Dan At what point did I ever say I bought them as an investment. They sat here for years unused. That has nothing to do with investment so you have lost me. Bill |
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Post by juggaloassassin183 on Jul 16, 2009 3:28:10 GMT -5
my grampa bought our c-71 for $175 2 years used in 63 the guy was sellin it for cheap just to get rid of it because he was tired of trying to figer out why it wouldent cut after he replaced the chain when he got home he fliped the chain around and told my then 12 year old dad to go out back and cut wood still have it and got it to run agine boy its a beast of a saw compared to most of the new stuff weve had and its lasted 48 years with out a over haul most new junk weve had was lucky to make it 2
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Post by lesorubcheek on Jul 16, 2009 7:12:17 GMT -5
Think it goes to show that buying a new saw as an investment with plans to sell it in the future is about like buying a lottery ticket. Odds are, you won't get you're money back, especially considering inflation. Dan At what point did I ever say I bought them as an investment. They sat here for years unused. That has nothing to do with investment so you have lost me. Bill Bill.. sometimes you really amaze me. I was not even remotely thinking about YOU. You raised the issue of selling NOS saws, and I was reminded of a topic over at AS from a little while ago where someone asked what new saw today would be a good investment. Your statement just made it clear in my mind that indeed its not wise to buy a new saw for an invesment with plans to sell it in the future. Period... nothing more. In no way was I trying to insinuate that you had originally bought these saws with the intent to sell them in the future. I have no idea of your motives for buying any saw, past, present, or future, nor should I care. I can see where you could read your conclusion into what I said, and I certainly have no problem clarifying what I meant. It's be nice to ask what I meant first instead of assuming something. Please Bill, don't read chit into a persons post and assume the world always revolves around you... OK. Dan |
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Post by billg on Jul 17, 2009 2:58:47 GMT -5
Dan,
At no point whatsover have I ever thought the world revolved around me so where in the world did you come up with that?. What the heck are you talking about? I read what is written. Here once again you have lost me. If you have a problem then freaking call me.
Bill
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Post by juggaloassassin183 on Jul 17, 2009 3:28:17 GMT -5
now setal down kiddies
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Post by billg on Jul 17, 2009 3:45:29 GMT -5
I am perfectly calm as always. I try to operate on a even keel. I think negativity needs to be checked at the door.
Bill
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