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Post by edju1958 on Oct 25, 2018 19:17:28 GMT -5
I just bought a 245 in excellent shape off Ebay for $9.The seller says that"it runs like a demon",but as soon as he tightens the bar nuts down the saw"dogs out & dies".I'll be posting some pics when I get the saw & I might need some help in diagnosing the problem.I'm sure that with all the brilliant minds here we can figure it out. Ed
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Post by ettrick on Oct 25, 2018 20:05:33 GMT -5
I have a brilliant demo saw, but i don't know about my mind! I bet we can figure it out too. Lets see those pictures.
Dan
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Post by edju1958 on Oct 26, 2018 9:42:22 GMT -5
At this point I don't have the saw yet,probably sometime next week.I'd like to know what chain should be used on the saw.I think by looking at the pics it has a 14 in.bar & chain on it now,but according to the seller,it might be too short,causing it to bind.How many drive links should there be on a 14 in.& a 16 in.? Ed
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Post by undee70ss on Oct 26, 2018 11:06:05 GMT -5
At this point I don't have the saw yet,probably sometime next week.I'd like to know what chain should be used on the saw.I think by looking at the pics it has a 14 in.bar & chain on it now,but according to the seller,it might be too short,causing it to bind.How many drive links should there be on a 14 in.& a 16 in.? Ed
They could have been in 3/8 lopro or .325 pitch. I thought I read somewhere that all 245's were .325, but parts can always be changed. Should probably wait till you recieve saw, and see what it has before deciding what to do. I was going to bid on that saw as it looked in real good shape. Glad another member here got it. 245's are the smallest saw with A/V, auto and manual oiling. |
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Post by edju1958 on Oct 26, 2018 12:38:12 GMT -5
According to Acres' site the 245 saws had 3/8 LP chains on them,but like you said,I'll wait till I get the saw to see what it has on it. Ed
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Post by edju1958 on Nov 2, 2018 17:35:49 GMT -5
I received the saw today.I did have a chance to open the box it came in & take the saw out.I noticed that the 245 has only one bar plate.I looked at an IPL for it & I guess this is normal.As for the chain,it's one that I've never seen #'s like this on a saw before - 58.The chain looks like it's had little use at all,like new,as far as the cutters go,but the drive links look a little worn.The bar is an original Homelite safe-T-tip.The spur sprocket looks new too.I think the previous owner had the wrong chain on it,it's a 14 in. Ed
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Post by rowdy235 on Nov 2, 2018 18:40:31 GMT -5
Is the chain a #58? I show that a supergard per my oregon book. Sounds like a nice saw!
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Post by edju1958 on Nov 2, 2018 20:06:28 GMT -5
Yes,it's a #58.Is it the right chain for the saw?I have an Oregon book too from 2017.They don't have a 58 chain listed for a 245.According to my book,a 245 with 3/8 pitch & .050gauge should take a 91PXL,91PX,or 91VXL.I think he had the wrong chain on the saw.
Ed
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Post by rowdy235 on Nov 2, 2018 20:28:48 GMT -5
Per my book #58 is .404, so I would say its wrong for the saw!
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Post by edju1958 on Nov 2, 2018 20:58:17 GMT -5
Why would anyone put a .404 chain on such a small saw?Lol It takes all kinds of people to make our world what it is. Ed
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Post by rowdy235 on Nov 2, 2018 21:03:06 GMT -5
I was asking myself the same thing. My guess is somebody said "saw chain is saw chain" lol.
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Post by edju1958 on Nov 18, 2018 18:07:30 GMT -5
Here's an update on the 245.I got the saw a couple of weeks ago & come to find out the previous owner had a mis-matched sprocket (.325) & chain & bar (3/8 pitch,.050 ga.) I changed out the sprocket & used a race & bearing from a burned up SEZ.I put it all together earlier & had the most difficult time trying to get the chain tightened.I finally succeeded,but as soon as I fired up the saw I could tell that something was wrong.I snugged the bar nuts & the chain is locked up,just like the previous owner said,but if I loosen the bar nuts,then the chain becomes completely undone.I've never run into a situation like this before.The bar is a Homelite PT18381-G4,the chain is a 58j (never heard of that chain # before). Ed
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Post by undee70ss on Nov 18, 2018 18:17:32 GMT -5
What sprocket did you put on? You should be using 3/8 lo pro chain with that bar.
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Post by edju1958 on Nov 18, 2018 18:50:44 GMT -5
I put a 3/8 sprocket on the 245,it came off an SEZ.I can try a different chain,but I don't think that's going to make a difference. Ed
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Post by undee70ss on Nov 18, 2018 19:21:11 GMT -5
Wrong sprocket!!! The Super EZ sprocket is made for 3/8 regular chain, you need one for 3/8 lo pro. It will never work right with the incorrect sprocket!
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Post by edju1958 on Nov 18, 2018 20:22:06 GMT -5
Will this one work?It doesn't say it's LP.It's the one you told me about on Ebay.
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Post by undee70ss on Nov 18, 2018 22:05:40 GMT -5
OK, I'm going to have to admit that I am probably just as confused as you are so research was in order. First many Original Homelite sprockets may have a 2 digit number on them. 32 is for .325 pitch, 37 is for 38 lo pro, 38 is for regular 3/8 pitch chain. I have 2 245's, one has 3/8 lo pro, the other .325. Sprockets are clearly marked with 32 (for .325) and 37 (for 3/8 lo pro). Now every sprocket 95458 that I could find is marked 38 (for 3/8 regular pitch). Now 245's never came with 3/8 regular pitch chain, and really don't have the power to pull it, but it CLEARLY states in the 245 IPL as 95458 sprocket as being a optional sprocket, but no bars were ever offered in regular 3/8 pitch in Homelite's "4" mount (which fits all the small saws.) Can you post a pic of that bars numbers that you have???
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Post by edju1958 on Nov 18, 2018 22:16:29 GMT -5
The .325 sprocket that was on the saw was marked with "32".The ones on Ebay don't say if they're lo profile or not.The #'s on the bar are difficult to see because they weren't imprinted into the steel & half the paint is missing,especially the beginning"PT".I'll take a pic & post it.Good luck on trying to read it. Ed
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Post by edju1958 on Nov 19, 2018 12:48:03 GMT -5
Here's the pic of the bar you asked for Greg.As you can see,it's difficult to read.I used my special magnifier on it to enlarge everything. Ed
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Post by undee70ss on Nov 20, 2018 3:26:59 GMT -5
Here's the pic of the bar you asked for Greg.As you can see,it's difficult to read.I used my special magnifier on it to enlarge everything. Ed Your right, that is tough to read. Since it can't be the easy way, I guess it will be the hard way and process of elimination. It really looks like a 32 to me but lets be sure. First count the teeth on the sprocket nose. A .325 pitch bar will have 10 teeth, a 3/8 lo pro bar will have 9 teeth. Mount the bar on saw with no chain, tighten clutch cover, can you turn the sprocket drum by hand? It should turn very easy with no resistance. What chain pitch are you using now? If unknown post some closeup pics of chain. Measure the exact distance across 3 rivets, post results. |
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