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Post by robsuper2 on Feb 25, 2008 21:31:36 GMT -5
I just found your site while searching for tune up parts.
A friend gave me an old Super 2. I've been using it for the last 8 years off and on, but now that heating oil is 3 bucks a gallon, I'm starting to use it more often.
It's a UT10654 SN:5G3300526
I bought a new chain but it keeps getting loose. The mixture screws don't seem to stay put and it constantly cuts out. It uses a lot of chain oil too. One tank of oil per three of gas.
When it's going full speed it's scary fast so I would like to tune it up and use it.
I probably need a new air filter, spark plug and maybe some new adjuster screws or springs or whatever. When I'm trying to adjust the screws the slotted blade seems to want to slide off so I thought maybe they make a special tool for it. Should I make my own mixture screwdriver by cutting a notch in the middle of an old slotted blade.
I don't really know much about chain saws but hopefully someone else is interested in these little saws enough to set me straight. And if you like Homelites that mch I'm sure you don't have anything better to do than read this whole post anyway. ;D
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Post by lawnmowertech37 on Feb 26, 2008 23:13:33 GMT -5
if rbw dont have 69141 air filter 692541A adjust nut bar 802202 screw adjusting bar DJ7Y spark plug i happen to have two of the 4 on our store
i may have these other items as well i will let you know thanks calvin
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Feb 27, 2008 18:39:25 GMT -5
If nothing else, dwmcg2000 and myself, can fix you up with a pair of not running Timbermen. LOL.
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Post by robsuper2 on Feb 27, 2008 18:53:41 GMT -5
I appreciate the help. Are there repair kits that contain the mixture screws?
In the pdf I see P/N 94056 (Walbro repair kit) or P/N 96484 (Zama repair kit).
I guess I'll pull it apart this weekend and put together a list. Anything I should look at?
Thanks again!
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Post by robsuper2 on Feb 27, 2008 19:12:57 GMT -5
If the Timberman saws don't run I'll need at least 3 of them. I'll swap you for 4 weller soldering irons with no tips. ;D
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Feb 27, 2008 20:18:09 GMT -5
Your going to fit in here just fine. I'll try to post somthing serious tomorrow. Jim
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Post by robsuper2 on Feb 27, 2008 20:57:55 GMT -5
Allright, I'll throw in two tips and roll of acid core solder but that's my final offer.
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Post by RBW on Feb 27, 2008 21:06:11 GMT -5
SOLD!!
Oh, wait, I got nothing to trade......
Calvin, if you have his parts have at it, I dont have much except points for the S-2 saw.
I do have a parts saw, but Im not sure if its a single needle carb or two needle, Whitch do you need Rob?
Just checked, mine is a single needle carb...
Btw, your oil usage seems on the low side of just about right.
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Feb 28, 2008 13:36:34 GMT -5
Assuming the saw runs good after the mixture screws are set properly. Does it cut out because the mixture screws back out, or are we dealing with 2 problems? Also, is it cutting out at idle or high speed, I would assume you mean high speed, but need to make sure. On the oil issue: I have always heard that both oil and fuel tanks should empty at aproximately the same time,
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Post by OBR on Feb 28, 2008 17:09:58 GMT -5
Yeah I agree on the oil thing, I have a Homelite XL which more or less is the same thing and it uses one tank oil per one tank fuel, but then again I exploded the little oil flow control valve with high pressure air so it now has a straight hose. It oils REALLY well.
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Post by robsuper2 on Feb 28, 2008 18:17:40 GMT -5
My complaint about chain oil usage proved how little I know. I always get pissed when my Chevelle runs out of oil. RBW - By "two needle" do you mean low and high speed mixture screws? That's what I have. Honestly it seems to bog down and cut out at any speed with or without a load. It has been cutting better at medium speed than high speed. I'll adjust both of the mixture screws for maximum speed and the idle speed so the chain will stop. Then I will pay better attention to the symptoms and drop "yous guys" a line. Thanks a lot.
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Feb 28, 2008 18:28:33 GMT -5
Max speed is not what you want. That will be to lean. Get max speed then turn the high speed screw out (ccw) until the engine '4-strokes' or burbles. Otherwise you run the risk of lean seizure, plus that is not where you will get the most power.
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Post by RBW on Feb 28, 2008 23:14:48 GMT -5
Hey, look, theres a discussion taking place! I agree with OBR about the oiling, but with this lil saw this is hard for two reasons: #1 This saw just dosent oil that well, it does OK, but youll never keep a 24" bar happy. #2 the oil tank on this saw is as big as the gas tank, where as on most saws its 1/3rd the size. A good, simple starting point for setting the carb on this saw would be to "Peak" the engine RPM, then back the H screw off about 1/4-1/3 turns. This is very "Ballparkish" but its easy enough for the novice to do. .
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Feb 29, 2008 6:32:18 GMT -5
Hey, maybe this discussion thing will catch on:) I thought about this last night : maybe the loose chain problem is from inadaquite oil, possibly compounded by a dull chain (chain strech)? And not the bar nut or adjuster. I'm suprised that I did not remember about the tank size, I've had enough super 2 / XL saws apart. It just never dawned on me. 6:32 in the morning and I've already learned something new! It's going to be a good day!
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Feb 29, 2008 6:34:12 GMT -5
Wouldn't a single needle carb solve 1/2 your needle problems? LOL
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Post by RBW on Feb 29, 2008 15:14:19 GMT -5
Yes and no.
Theres less to go wrong, but also less adjustability.
Rob, how many turns out does it take from lightly seated does it take to make the saw run right?
Im wondering if the needles need to be excessivly open to allow the saw to run, which would indicate a gummed up carb or other fuel problem.
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Post by robsuper2 on Feb 29, 2008 18:05:34 GMT -5
I will try your tuning suggestions tomorrow morning. If you don't hear from me ever again that means things went terrible wrong. In that case " thanks for nothing JERKS!!!".... But if I still have at least two fingers left I will reply and ask you to please ignore that last comment.
Just kidding, thanks for the help.
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Post by RBW on Feb 29, 2008 20:33:05 GMT -5
Just make sure to hold the saw between your legs and keep your hands in your pockets when starting and youll be OK. .
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Mar 1, 2008 19:51:37 GMT -5
Happy birthday Rob. I hope your B-Day finds you with all your fingers!!
Any updates on the super 2?
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Post by OBR on Mar 1, 2008 21:43:47 GMT -5
Hey rbw, am trying your starting advice...just can't figure out how to pull the starter rope with my hands in my pockets yet. lol
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