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Post by edju1958 on Jun 7, 2020 10:09:01 GMT -5
I've been looking at some XL-1 saws on Feebay & I see some with decompression levers & some without.I also see some with manual oil pump plungers & some with just an open hole where the p[lunger should be.My questions are:Was the decompression valve an option,or was it an add on at a later date,or was it standard equipment on all XL-1 saws?The other thing I'd like to know is did all the XL-1 saws come as automatic oiling saws,or was that an option?If an option,should there have been a plug in the place where the plunger would've been,or was it a common practice to just leave it as an open hole?Could the manual be added on later like the SXL's ?
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Post by onlyhomelites on Jun 8, 2020 9:31:28 GMT -5
The XL-1 was like the Super XL...changes mid-stream to confuse things! I don't have a complete set of the IPL revisions, but enough to answer most of your questions (and a few more that you didn't ask!). All XL-1's should have a decompression valve, just like all the versions of the EZ. If it's missing, either the port has been plugged or it's just missing. See Fossil's post below...also this IPL of the XL-1AO confirms: www.leonschainsawpartsandrepair.com/uploads/3/9/7/9/39792537/homelite_xl-1ao_parts_list_78329.pdf- The "automatics" were an XL-1 automatic and it appears that many did not have a manual oiler from the factory. The plunger hole is supposed to be plugged with a small plug that threads down in. It looks like it doesn't have a flange, like the plug on a SXL, so it will sit deeper in the threads.
I've never seen a package option, but adding a manual oiler to a automatic shouldn't be hard. Again, so Fossil's post below. - The XL-1's all used the longer "automatic" crankshaft instead of a shorter one for the manual oiler saws. They used some sort of spacer where the pump should be so that the clutch & sprocket alignment would be correct.
- Some later XL-1AO's were produced with the plastic starter and air filter cover.
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Post by fossil on Jun 8, 2020 11:14:31 GMT -5
Ed, If you're looking at Terry XL-1 (red), the manual oiler boss is not machined either outside or inside the carb box and they didn't come with a decomp. Different that way from the US models. They have the same engine (41.2cc) except for the decomp, as a Super EZ or Super Mini. The decomp boss on the cylinder is there but it's not machined. As far as the blue manual oiler only models go, Hoggwood posted a nice instructional on how to add an auto oiler to those if you feel ambitious. houseofhomelite.proboards.com/thread/9607/super-mini-auto-conversion-project |
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Post by edju1958 on Jun 8, 2020 12:15:30 GMT -5
The one I ended up buying for $15 is a red (Terry made) saw.It's missing a few minor things like the recoil spring,fuel cap,& air filter nut.On further inspection of the pics I found that the air filter stud was broken off the bracket.That's not a problem as I must have at least 15 of them.Lol I also won't be getting ambitious & adding on a different crankcase for an auto oiler.
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Post by fossil on Jun 8, 2020 12:25:21 GMT -5
No crankcase change required if you read the whole post. That was just to replace the damaged one. It's about drilling the oil passages out and drilling and tapping the oil pump mounting screw holes.
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Post by edju1958 on Jun 8, 2020 12:38:59 GMT -5
I did read Corey's post back when he first posted it,but forgot the particulars.I'll have enough on my plate fixing the saw up to be a runner & deal with all the other saws that I need to get running.
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Post by onlyhomelites on Jun 8, 2020 23:34:03 GMT -5
Fossil, thank you for correcting my erroneous post...I looked at that IPL this morning and could have sworn it showed a decomp valve. Clearly I hadn't' had enough coffee!
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Post by fossil on Jun 9, 2020 7:04:03 GMT -5
Is the Terry XL-1 IPL up on the site somewhere?
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Post by stillsawing on Jun 9, 2020 9:08:31 GMT -5
I have viewed the Terry XL-1, revision 2 on Leon's site. It shows machining done to areas where a manual oiler can be added along with the addition of the decompression parts. My XL-1 is red, no machining, and has the same electronic ignition used on the Super EZ. Makes me wonder if there is a revision 3 IPL for this saw.
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Post by edju1958 on Jun 9, 2020 9:52:40 GMT -5
I hope to the high heavens that the one I just bought isn't an electronic ignition.I'm fresh out of those blue ignition modules.
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Post by fossil on Jun 9, 2020 11:10:32 GMT -5
I got 4 red ones in a buy. Only one had the blue coil. Keep your fingers crossed.
I'll have a look at the IPL on Leon's site. Thanks.
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Post by onlyhomelites on Jun 9, 2020 22:51:03 GMT -5
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Post by xl130 on Jun 10, 2020 6:54:22 GMT -5
Did they adjust the timing on the saws that they removed the decompression valves?
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Post by fossil on Jun 10, 2020 14:03:47 GMT -5
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Post by fossil on Jun 10, 2020 14:14:39 GMT -5
Did they adjust the timing on the saws that they removed the decompression valves? Not as near as I can tell. I have a Super Mini, a Super EZ and the XL-1's. I can't tell the difference in power or starting them without using the decomp. The effort to start them without a decomp isn't too bad. Those little starter pulleys don't give you a lot a mechanical advantage. No issue with kickback it you give it stout pull. I hope you get your mini going. It's the saw you'll pick up if your cutting smaller stuff. The 3/8 chain isn't quite up to cutting dry wood. Chatters. I did convert an XL-1 to 3/8 LP to see what the difference was like . Smoother in dry stuff but cut a little slower than te full 3/8 I used a standard 3/8 rim (would be hard on the chain drivers after a time. Some carvers do that) and a Remington roller nose bar off an SL-9 |
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Post by onlyhomelites on Jun 11, 2020 8:53:57 GMT -5
I've outfitted a few of these with .325" chain for customers and they seem to be happy. You can get the K095 combo from Oregon for some of the smaller Husky's so that you have a matched chain & sprocket nose bar.
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Post by xl130 on Jun 11, 2020 20:00:20 GMT -5
Is a 3/8 7 tooth rim a standard part, or are there different styles of splines?
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Post by sweepleader on Jun 11, 2020 20:37:18 GMT -5
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