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Post by dstrick32 on Dec 16, 2008 10:23:53 GMT -5
I'm new here and I've got a couple of problems with my little Homey. First problem is that it pours to much oil out. Changed the duck bill and still the same problem. When I went to replace the duck bill it hat a T-fitting on the end of the line and I'd never seen one like that before so I replace it with a straight fitting. The second problem is the fuel lines and which one goes where. I have the long line with filter going to the port beneath the air filter and the short line with the primer bulb going to the port on the throttle lever side above the idle adjustment screw. The primer bulb will not pump up with fuel like it use to do, sounds more like it's sucking air than fuel. It is a new cap and primer. It did start up and ran for awhile but now a no start problem. Does anyone think that they might help this old man out before I burn this thing?? I know that the primer is the return line but which is the return port. Thanks in advance and I like your Homelite site. Seems a little more sociable around here.
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Post by lesorubcheek on Dec 16, 2008 11:30:29 GMT -5
Hello and welcome dstrick32, More sociable as compared with...... ;D think I have a good idea. As for the questions, sorry but I don't have any Homelites that new. Never played with the Lil Reds and not sure of all the differences with the little XL they evolved from. Best I can do is point you at this link www.odref.com/homelite/chainsaw/ut-10734r.PDF for an IPL that at least has a diagram showing the fuel and oil lines. Not sure if your saw is exaclty like this but maybe this will help. Dan |
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Post by OBR on Dec 16, 2008 20:48:53 GMT -5
Dan, I have a little red, its just an xl as far as I know they are the same as all the other ones, other than plastic cases, but even the late xl's were plastic. on my little red there is one line that goes from the tank to the carb, the end in the tank has a duckbill valve. the other line has a filter in the tank and goes to the bar oiler port on the side of the saw. oh crap i almost forgot mine doesnt have the adjustable oiler anymore (i blew it up w/ air and it works better without it imo). dstrick - you need to flip flop your lines and you should be good. the long one with the filter goes up to the adjustible oiler dial and the one with the duckbill goes to the carb. as far as your priming issues i will look at my little red tomorrow if i get the chance and get back to you on it. dont burn it, i love mine!! ;D
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Post by lesorubcheek on Dec 17, 2008 8:10:13 GMT -5
Yea, I'm a bit hesitant to comment on some of these later models after seeing glimpses in IPLs. Some of em use an oiler that's mounted on the carb and some have an adjustable oiler system also. Never seen these as the XLs and Super 2s I have all use the same diaphram system to pump the oil. Homelite made some changes on the later models, and I'm never quite sure what models it effected.
Dan
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Post by dstrick32 on Dec 17, 2008 10:46:15 GMT -5
Thanks gentlemen I appreciate your response. I will swap lines and see what happens but in the mean time I forgot to ask about a third hole in the top of the fuel tank that was just open and no signs of anything ever being in it. Also have you given the T-fittig in the oil tank any thought. the tube was on one end, the duck bill on the other end but no sign of anything ever being on the third port. This thing ain't like then old saws that I used to work on. The manual says this saw is equipped with adjustable oiler system but I've yet to find the adjustment dial. Thanks again!!
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Post by lesorubcheek on Dec 17, 2008 13:24:31 GMT -5
I think the T fitting was just a replacement for the duck bill system. Note the duck bill slid onto a piece of porous metal tube. That's right.... porous! Reason was so pressure could vent out of the tank after the engine was turned off. Otherwise oil would continue to be pushed out of the tank until pressure had equalized. I think (not sure, but think) the T fitting just had one end of the small T open to serve the same purpose as the previous porous fitting. Again, this is just my understanding based on limited knowledge of the newer Homelites.
As for the third opening on the fuel tank, if its located on the side away from the others, it may very well have been where a duckbill, yep another duckbill, would be located. The fuel tank cap was sealed so to allow air to vent in as fuel was drawn out, a duckbill was used to allow air to enter and at the same time restrict fuel from pouring out. Without knowing the exact location, this is just my guess.
Dan
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Post by OBR on Dec 17, 2008 16:45:57 GMT -5
Ok, upon further inspection: I was thinking correctly on the oiler system - the line with the duckbill attached to the end in the tank connects to the carb. the other, longer hose with the filter attached in the tank attaches to the oil adjust valve above the carb, from there a shorter piece runs from the valve to the bar oiler port itself (you shouldnt have to worry about that one) I do not no the purpose of the "t fitting" someone must've stuck it on there at some point. Just a note there is a duckbill valve in the side of the oil tank as well. Of course all this info is only for sure about my Lil Red, yours may have some variation. For the fuel system: all i can say for sure is i have one line going from the primer to the carb (i think i dont really wanna tear the thing completely apart to find out) and then another (with a filter on in-tank end) running to the fuel inlet of the carb. Im with dan in assuming your third hole is for a duckbill valve. good luck!
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Post by dstrick32 on Jan 8, 2009 9:12:03 GMT -5
Thanks and sorry for the delay in geting back, got throwed on the side burner for awhile. Swapped lines no change, put lines back as were and it will prime up with cap off. I figured I might of twisted the return line when screwing cap back on. Got it to fire off but it will run for a short while and die as if it runs out of fuel. I'll try to vent the fuel tank with a duck bill and stop the oil from pouring out by changing the fittings on the oil tube. The oil regulator is not a part of this saw. I'm trying to find the following parts, some which say they are no longer made,
69659B Oil line fitting (Duck Bill)
83004 Oil line lock washer (Duck Bill)
98819 Check valve (Duck Bill)
08819 Check valve (Off side of fuel tank)
Any help please!! These numbers came from the Homelite site.
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Post by dstrick32 on Jan 9, 2009 0:32:04 GMT -5
Found the parts and ordered them so we'll see how it goes. Thanks everyone!!
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Post by dstrick32 on Jan 9, 2009 22:15:05 GMT -5
edgeandengine.com
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