adgno
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Post by adgno on Sept 24, 2018 9:28:11 GMT -5
Hello all, Registered today and want to say hello to all chainsaw interested people here. As it says in the title i will pick up a nice working Zip coming weekend. See pic attached. My plan is to restore to original beauty. Will follow this forum and possibly post some pics as we go. Have a good week. Albert
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Post by tjthechainsawmech on Sept 24, 2018 11:15:41 GMT -5
Congrats and welcome aboard! You will like running that saw. It'll pull that bar faster than you'd expect. I'd suggest flushing the tanks out, put some fuel lines and a carb kit in there and get some spark and run her a bit before you tear down for a resto. Leon and I have both ran mine and it's a ball.
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adgno
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Post by adgno on Sept 24, 2018 11:46:46 GMT -5
I got the ser nr plate picture. Would this mean somewhere between feb and apr 1960? I looked in the Joyces files. Incredible good work by the lady.
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Post by sweepleader on Sept 24, 2018 16:38:20 GMT -5
Welcome to the House of Homelite. You will have fun with that saw like TJ said but as he also said, get her running right before you think about resto. Also keep in mind that Joyce's records are dates of sale, not build. I didn't look so maybe you factored that in already. That list will certainly get a date in the right year.
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Post by rowdy235 on Sept 24, 2018 18:23:27 GMT -5
Welcome aboard! Nice looking saw. I am sure you will have a good time with it, be sure to keep us updated as you get to work!
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Post by onlyhomelites on Sept 24, 2018 22:42:55 GMT -5
Welcome to HOH!
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adgno
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Post by adgno on Sept 29, 2018 8:29:07 GMT -5
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Sept 29, 2018 11:17:42 GMT -5
The saw looks great. Nice & clean/complete. But what I think is, your wife is going to kill you if she see that greasy/oily saw on that nice wool blanket!
Christ, I sound like my wife...
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adgno
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Post by adgno on Sept 29, 2018 11:46:45 GMT -5
The saw looks great. Nice & clean/complete. But what I think is, your wife is going to kill you if she see that greasy/oily saw on that nice wool blanket! Christ, I sound like my wife... Lol i wont tell her 😂😂
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adgno
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Post by adgno on Oct 1, 2018 10:59:06 GMT -5
Tried starting the saw and she runs great. But unfortunately the rope broke. I have a spare rope that I got with the XL 800 but wonder how to replace the rope without the spring getting loose. Is that possible?
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Post by 1975 Super XL on Oct 1, 2018 12:32:07 GMT -5
Most of the time the spring will stay in the starter housing if there is no tension on it. Make sure the old rope is not preventing the pulley from rotating, then rotate the pulley back and forth slightly, just to make sure there is no tension on the spring. Then you can slowly lift the pulley off the post. It may help to wiggle the pulley a little bit while removing it, to help the spring anchor get off the pulley. The spring's expanding force will hold it against the wall of the starter housing so it does not come out with the pulley.
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Post by sweepleader on Oct 1, 2018 13:15:19 GMT -5
You are safe cleaning them, but do not put oil or any lubricant on them The pawls in your second picture need friction inside the assembly to extend them so they can grip the cup in your top picture.
You have not quite got to the spring yet, you need to pull the snap ring in the middle of the second picture and gently lift the pulley free of the spring, replace the rope and reassemble. You can use the notch in the pulley at the upper right in the photo to rewind the spring so it will retract the rope. I would do most of the reassembly but not the final rewind. Thread the rope out the guide and install the handle. Then do the final winding to get the rope to fully retract. You will twist the rope but it will untwist at the handle. Do not over wind which will cause binding and breakage when you pull the rope.
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adgno
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Post by adgno on Oct 1, 2018 14:02:42 GMT -5
Thx all, have taken all off but seem unable to get the spring to grab when putting back together. I think the spring should point more towards the center so it can grab where you see the green zip tie. Any ideas what magic trick to pull here? I do not know if it is possible or do i need a New spring alltogether.
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Post by 1975 Super XL on Oct 1, 2018 15:54:16 GMT -5
It looks like the end of the spring is broken. You could try to bend the remaining end back into the "U" shape, but the spring may break from fatigue. It would probably be best to get a new spring.
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Post by rowdy235 on Oct 1, 2018 16:16:03 GMT -5
There's a sight I have seen a few times lol. When I was working on my 707 G I think I ended up dismantling the recoil a total of 5 times.
Like 1975 said it looks like the end of your spring is broken off it should have a U shape which catches the Rope pulley in order to return it after it's pulled. I've actually had okay luck bending a new U into the end of the spring on many saws but it may be a good idea to keep an eye out for a new spring as that one may very well break again.
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adgno
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Post by adgno on Oct 1, 2018 16:47:50 GMT -5
Thanks alot for advice. I succeeded in bending a U at the end and now it seems to work again. To be sure i ordered a new spring. Start her up tomorrow and see what happens.
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Oct 1, 2018 17:04:57 GMT -5
Looks like you've got it. This is a good place for a small pencil torch. Heat the end of that spring just enough and it will bend with ease and shouldn't break. Hold it while it cools but more than anything, don't put too much heat to the magnesium housing behind it or you're going to have a bad day. I'd slide a piece of aluminum or copper behind the spring end to keep the heat off the magnesium.
That center picture above, looks like the friction washers weren't there? And the starter worked well?
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adgno
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Post by adgno on Oct 1, 2018 17:47:47 GMT -5
Looks like you've got it. This is a good place for a small pencil torch. Heat the end of that spring just enough and it will bend with ease and shouldn't break. ..... That center picture above, looks like the friction washers weren't there? And the starter worked well? I used a pencil torch so I could bend it. I an not aware what was missing. You have a picture of what was missing? I looked at this drawing (thx undee70ss) and it looked complete to me. Yes the starter worked before the rope snapped.
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Oct 1, 2018 18:04:55 GMT -5
They are typically called friction washers. Two fibrous/rubbery washers roughly 3/6" thick. These are the important ones not to get oil on.
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