Older Homelite XL2 Auto serial number

[stormydog]

I have an older Homelite XL2 Auto. The user manual is Part No. 24751 I can not find this manual anywhere and it does not contain part numbers, only a diagram and part name.

I am told my saw clutch will not release and no parts are available. I am finding some used parts but all are specific part numbers of generic descriptions. I do not know what would cause the clutch to release so |I figure I need at least the clutch assembly. 

Serial No. 44720801

Can anyone tell me what I need?

[undee70ss]

www.leonschainsawpartsandrepair.com/uploads/3/9/7/9/39792537/homelite_xl-2_chainsaw_ipl_24752.pdf

[undee70ss]

Most likely the clutch is fine, but the sprocket bearing is froze. Try to get some oil in there and it may free up.

[jerseyhighlander]

I'm guessing you took it to a shop and were told it was frozen by them? Honestly, it sounds like someone is giving you a song & dance cause either; they don't want to be bothered with an older saw or they want to sell you a new one.

I'd bet Undees70 is right. That clutch is a pretty durable thing, one solid chunk of steel unless someone has put the wrong one on it in the past. Even if it is stuck, clutches for those saws should be a dime a dozen.

If you want to venture into it yourself, post some pictures and plenty of people here can help you out.

[undee70ss]

Here is the service manual for your saw also.

www.leonschainsawpartsandrepair.com/uploads/3/9/7/9/39792537/homelite_service_guide_xl_xl2_super_2.pdf

[stormydog]

Thanks for the information and service manual. You are absolutely correct in thaT my service shop does not want to repair this saw because it is too old and want nothing more than to sell me a new saw. I've seen this exact same attitude on my 13 year Husquvarna ZTR. Priced a new muffler and was told my mower probably not worth $200 muffler. How stupid to say such a thing! I plan on dealing less and less with them in the future.

As far as the clutch not releasing, I am looking for reasons. I paid the service shop $42 to figure out the problem and was told the clutch was not releasing and they can not get parts for it anymore. Reasons for clutch not releasing beside those already listed? If I can turn the drum and sprocket by hand and when running it moves the chain and will cut with throttle held on, but as soon as I release the throttle even slightly, it dies. Is this still valid in wanting to oil/grease the bearings? As soon as I get up the nerve I will take engine out of case and inspect closer. Is there an clutch that I need that comes with new bearings? Does the sprocke5t hub have bearings?

[Deleted]

Aug 28, 2018 1:43:44 GMT -5 stormydog said:

Thanks for the information and service manual. You are absolutely correct in thaT my service shop does not want to repair this saw because it is too old and want nothing more than to sell me a new saw. I've seen this exact same attitude on my 13 year Husquvarna ZTR. Priced a new muffler and was told my mower probably not worth $200 muffler. How stupid to say such a thing! I plan on dealing less and less with them in the future.

As far as the clutch not releasing, I am looking for reasons. I paid the service shop $42 to figure out the problem and was told the clutch was not releasing and they can not get parts for it anymore. Reasons for clutch not releasing beside those already listed? If I can turn the drum and sprocket by hand and when running it moves the chain and will cut with throttle held on, but as soon as I release the throttle even slightly, it dies. Is this still valid in wanting to oil/grease the bearings? As soon as I get up the nerve I will take engine out of case and inspect closer. Is there an clutch that I need that comes with new bearings? Does the sprocke5t hub have bearings?

I suggest you look at the parts manual from Leon's site and start familiarizing yourself with basic parts and where they are. Most clutches ride on a bearing and race inside the clutch hub over the crankshaft. The parts manual will show this and the part numbers, then you can start looking for parts. If the clutch sprocket is eat up (you will see deep grooves in the sprocket), then a hub sprocket and bearing are in order. I would order a new carb kit as well. Its likely Leon or one of the other sellers her will have the part, if not they aren't very much on eBay. The parts manual is just a few pages, you will really benefit in carefully looking it over. Good Luck

[sweepleader]

"If I can turn the drum and sprocket by hand and when running it moves the chain and will cut with throttle held on, but as soon as I release the throttle even slightly, it dies. Is this still valid in wanting to oil/grease the bearings?"

Does this comment mean that you CAN turn the clutch by hand?

If so, it is not stuck. If the engine dies when going to idle, you have an engine problem, not a clutch problem. If the idle speed is too high the chain will move with the engine running and this is a bad thing. If you cannot get the engine to idle down to stop the clutch, you likely have a carb problem or there may be a vacuum leak or both.

You need to get the engine to run at idle before you worry about the clutch releasing.

[stormydog]

Thanks for some excellant advice. I was thinking if the saw started fine and ran (but at full throttle) then something is preventing it from returning to idle. But of course i know nothing. Dirt in carb? Yes, I can turn the chain and sprocket by hand and chain will cut wood so clutch is not releasing scenareo is a bunch of bull, correct? The service shop simply did not spend much time wanting to figure anything out and quickly wanted the saw out of their sight!
Maybe vibration moved the idle screw? I should check that first. How do I? This is the first and very simple step I will take.

[stormydog]

Aug 22, 2018 18:04:28 GMT -5 undee70ss said:

www.leonschainsawpartsandrepair.com/uploads/3/9/7/9/39792537/homelite_xl-2_chainsaw_ipl_24752.pdf

This does not agree with my actuAL OWNERS MANUAL which is part #24751 fourth edition. I am certain you are telling me these parts are the same as mine and can be used. I was very skittish about specifying part numbers with out knowing for sure.

[undee70ss]

Yes you can use the parts listed in the parts list. Homelite upgraded parts over time. Most of the parts fit.

[Deleted]

Need the UT number for the right manual

[stormydog]

I've seen many examples of UT numbers but I have no idea where they come from. My owners manual never states this and the metal id tag on the saw has no such number. Kind of my reason for starting this thread was to figure out a parts diagram and parts number. So where does this UT number come from?

Was it a later addition and my saw was before that time?

[undee70ss]

Aug 30, 2018 13:46:38 GMT -5 stormydog said:

I've seen many examples of UT numbers but I have no idea where they come from. My owners manual never states this and the metal id tag on the saw has no such number. Kind of my reason for starting this thread was to figure out a parts diagram and parts number. So where does this UT number come from?

Was it a later addition and my saw was before that time?

Post a pic of your id tag. 73-77, was screwy years on Homelite ID tags. Some only had a lot number and serial number, some only had a lot number and a UT number. In late 77, Homelite use a UT number and a serial number on everything.

[dynodave]

My 1973 XL2auto is pre UT numbering. My OM is 24751 and IPL is 24752.It was originally 1/4" chain. I got it from the original buyer with a few homelite flyers, literature and warranty card that came in the box.
SD saw is probably 1974 and not yet UT assigned either.