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Post by jklw77 on Jun 22, 2018 13:57:20 GMT -5
Hello guys,have an ez automatic had no fire , got a replacement coil , and could not separate coil core from coil . Any tips on separation would be great.
jklw77
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Post by undee70ss on Jun 22, 2018 13:58:54 GMT -5
Did you take retainer out first?
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Post by jklw77 on Jun 22, 2018 15:04:20 GMT -5
no . this coil is a phelon, took 2 mount screws out, and the one wire from coil to core, did not see a retainer.
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Post by jklw77 on Jun 22, 2018 15:14:50 GMT -5
have the coil and coil core on the bench out of saw do not see any retainers
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Post by jklw77 on Jun 22, 2018 15:20:34 GMT -5
have tried screw drivers prying between coil and core , has not budged the slightest
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Post by gabriel on Jun 22, 2018 15:24:07 GMT -5
If you were gentle you could probably use a gear puller.
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Post by jklw77 on Jun 22, 2018 15:25:39 GMT -5
this core looks as it is cast into the coil on the white coil shellis the id FWM-2501
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on Jun 22, 2018 22:21:02 GMT -5
Have a look at page 2 of the EZ-Automatic Chainsaw IPL 243223-A
The Phelon coil : #24 of the diagram ..... part # 68256... uses,
Coil retainer : #25 of the diagram....part # 68257...onto the,
Core : #23 of the diagram...part # 68255
The Wico coil and core : #40 of the diagram....part # 68716
appears to be a one piece unit.
Have you removed the flywheel an confirmed that it is a Phelon ignition system ?
The breaker box covers are different on the two systems....(#37-P..#47-W..of the diagram)
Also have you tested the coil, high tension lead, points,condenser ? results ?
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Post by jklw77 on Jun 23, 2018 7:29:35 GMT -5
fly wheel is phelon,,condenser 65286 new ,A65203A new points, new copper plug wire, new boot with old terminal in good shape
original coil to spark plug wire terminal 5573 ohms
coil core to ground to( coil wire to coil core) .04-,05 ohms
condensor 1.1 ohms
checked on / off switch it is in working order ,tried with and without , no change
magnetism on flywheel seems to have a good strength
coil to flywheel .010 gap, POINTS SET TO .015 GAP. using s spark tester with adjustable gap
have new DJ-6J ordered thru Napa for when get fire
have cleaned points with alcohol, scuffed with 380 grits sandpaper, reclined with lacquer thinner , multiple pull throughs with clean pieces of paper
When I took the coil and core off, for further inspection was not able to see #25 retainer 68257 and
thanks all for the replys u have sent
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on Jun 23, 2018 14:02:07 GMT -5
Just had a look at my EZ-Automatic with Phelon Ignition...Type:10109...SN:03340774
Secondary resistance :8560 ohms
I too do not see a coil retainer but rather a hard yellow adhesive securing the coil onto the core.
Removal of the coil will require some persuasion.Cut off the visible adhesive,set the core legs facing down
onto a flat wood surface,drive the coil down with a wood block and hammer.
The other option is to get a new armature(core)...see a couple on eBay and a clip at Leon's store.
Best of luck !
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on Jul 1, 2018 18:50:42 GMT -5
Further investigation has revealed that my EZ-Auto :10109 sn# 03340774 .. has a Phelon coil/core assembly.
Note 1 of the IPL part# A-65204...which was used on saws with serial no. below 91952093 ??
A different flywheel must also be used part # 65061 according to the IPL.
This might be another option to repair your saw jklw77.
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Post by jklw77 on Jul 1, 2018 22:38:33 GMT -5
for my part # reference used homelite part list #24323 from Leon's site, at part page no reference to A-65204
, ...with the different part #s did not know of this .
flywheel I have is F-8630 Phelon # 65288-A homelite,
thanks for the info, if I go this route will have to change coil assembly. and flywheel from what I am seeing , at least it is an option
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