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Post by jerseyhighlander on Jun 9, 2018 21:16:03 GMT -5
Came up on a CL ad for a Homelite 4-20 at a reasonable price the other day and while it was over an hour from home it was only 15 minutes from my long time Chiropractor I really needed to go see. Met a pretty nice guy with an appreciation for Homelite & other old chainsaws, looked it over, BS'ed for a bit and put it in the car.
It's got what feels like very good compression. Suffered a little abuse, missing a couple body panels, the starter pulley cover & cylinder cover aren't there, hopefully somebody has a spare to sell. Was full of nasty, very old gas, the fuel line broken off, chain oil plug badly buggered up, a solderless terminal for a spark plug connection... No gear oil in the gearbox. But, I look forward to bringing it back to life and making it look like new again. Hopefully be as pretty as the one TJ did.
Drained the gas out of it today, not an easy thing with a big lip around the hole on the inside of the tank. Had better luck with the turkey baster than to turn it upside down. Gonna squirt some mix down the carb tomorrow and see if it'll pop.
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Post by sweepleader on Jun 9, 2018 21:34:53 GMT -5
Nice, very nice.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 22:33:57 GMT -5
Nice score!
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Post by onlyhomelites on Jun 10, 2018 0:34:00 GMT -5
But, I look forward to bringing it back to life and making it look like new again. Hopefully be as pretty as the one TJ did. TJ does set a pretty high bar with his restorations! Looks like a fun project, be sure to keep the pics coming as you make progress! |
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Post by tjthechainsawmech on Jun 10, 2018 1:39:55 GMT -5
But, I look forward to bringing it back to life and making it look like new again. Hopefully be as pretty as the one TJ did. TJ does set a pretty high bar with his restorations! Looks like a fun project, be sure to keep the pics coming as you make progress! Look who's talkin! lol! Hard to beat the resto's I've seen you do buddy! |
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Jun 10, 2018 9:40:40 GMT -5
A high bar indeed. From you two and a dozen other's around here.
I'm just happy to finally have a gear driven, true classic. This one, at least for now, displaces my Pioneer 650 as the oldest saw in my collection. Just seething with character everyplace I look at it.
Speaking of age, the serial # is 760889 B. I'm thinking the 7 at the beginning is for 1957. That may just be coincidence here but I know a lot of early manufacturers used that method to date code their serial numbers. Any input appreciated. Any idea what the B at the end might be for? I'm also thinking it might be among the early years of it's kind as the data tag says "patents applied for" at the bottom.
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Post by undee70ss on Jun 10, 2018 9:47:31 GMT -5
Speaking of age, the serial # is 760889 B. I'm thinking the 7 at the beginning is for 1957. That may just be coincidence here but I know a lot of early manufacturers used that method to date code their serial numbers. Any input appreciated. Any idea what the B at the end might be for? I'm also thinking it might be among the early years of it's kind as the data tag says "patents applied for" at the bottom. The ONLY way to date Homelite 7 digit serial numbers is to use Joyce's sales records. The numbers have no meaning for dates. Using her records, it would be very late 1957 or early 1958. |
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Jun 13, 2018 0:22:46 GMT -5
So I haven't been able to get this thing up on the workbench and put some time into it but from a quick look over, it looks like I need to remove some body parts just to get at where the fuel line attaches to the carburetor. Or, am I missing something?
Also, curious about the history of this saw model. Looking over Joyce's records, it looks like she only sold a couple of these. The 17's were selling like mad for a while and looking at the dates of manufacture on Acres site, the 17 stopped production and the 4-20 started. Odd thing is, I can't find any real difference at all between the two models. Almost looks like they kept making the exact same saw and just started calling it the 4-20 instead of the 17. Or is this another area of the Acres site that isn't exactly accurate?
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Post by tjthechainsawmech on Jun 13, 2018 0:54:51 GMT -5
If you take the side cover off under the tank next to the flywheel shroud that will free up alot of room. Then you can remove the line from the carb and valve and slide it out.
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Jun 13, 2018 9:38:17 GMT -5
If you take the side cover off under the tank next to the flywheel shroud that will free up alot of room. Then you can remove the line from the carb and valve and slide it out. Thanks TJ, I looked at that but couldn't tell if it was a separate piece from the rest of the case or not.
Curious if you ever had the fuel tank open. Wondering what it looks like in there.
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Post by tjthechainsawmech on Jun 13, 2018 23:11:27 GMT -5
I've never had to separate one yet. Last one that had corrosion I soaked with some acetone and flushed it with gas and it hasn't leaked a drop. Lately I've been lucky enough to get away with a good flushing.
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Jun 16, 2018 16:05:36 GMT -5
It lives! Squirted some fuel down the intake to see what I'd get and it's a happy day.
Edit; Not sure how to make the video show in the post but if you click on the picture it should bring you to the Flickr video. You know you want to see it run.
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Jun 16, 2018 16:14:08 GMT -5
Also, with a very generous donation of parts from Jasper, the Kentucky Sawman, she is now wearing all the formerly missing body parts [cylinder cover & pulley cover].
 IMG_6165 by Kyle, on Flickr  IMG_6167 by Kyle, on Flickr Many thanks Jasper for those and all the other spares you tossed in that box. I will be looking for an opportunity to return the favor. |
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Post by ettrick on Jun 16, 2018 16:56:45 GMT -5
Thanks for posting the pictures, and good job on saving the saw. It makes me want to find an old one and add to my collection.
Dan
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Jun 18, 2018 23:06:45 GMT -5
Also, curious about the history of this saw model. Looking over Joyce's records, it looks like she only sold a couple of these. The 17's were selling like mad for a while and looking at the dates of manufacture on Acres site, the 17 stopped production and the 4-20 started. Odd thing is, I can't find any real difference at all between the two models. Almost looks like they kept making the exact same saw and just started calling it the 4-20 instead of the 17. Or is this another area of the Acres site that isn't exactly accurate? I was hoping to get a bit more conversation about this. Anybody game? Bring on the historians! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 23:13:48 GMT -5
Jasper Is a great guy, He's saved me money and helped me on several occasions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 23:14:57 GMT -5
Also, curious about the history of this saw model. Looking over Joyce's records, it looks like she only sold a couple of these. The 17's were selling like mad for a while and looking at the dates of manufacture on Acres site, the 17 stopped production and the 4-20 started. Odd thing is, I can't find any real difference at all between the two models. Almost looks like they kept making the exact same saw and just started calling it the 4-20 instead of the 17. Or is this another area of the Acres site that isn't exactly accurate? I was hoping to get a bit more conversation about this. Anybody game? Bring on the historians! My knowledge starts after 1964, I'm sure Scott and others will know things about it. |
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Post by sweepleader on Jun 19, 2018 6:45:28 GMT -5
Sorry to say that I know nothing about this model, other than general chainsaw stuff. I cannot help. Very nice saw however. Along with jasper, there are many here who help most anyway they can. Thanks to all.
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Post by tjthechainsawmech on Jun 19, 2018 7:58:12 GMT -5
I don't know much either other than having worked on one. A model 17 is one on my list so when I get one of them I'll do a tear down if someone doesn't beat me to it.
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Post by kysawman on Jun 19, 2018 8:18:01 GMT -5
From seeing the pictures of yours it looks identical to the 17 that I had. That is what the parts are from. I wonder it just changed names to match the other saws in the line. If I am not mistaken the seven stood for seven horsepower and the twenty for twenty inch bar. One would have to hit the IPL’s to see if anything had changed.
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