New Super EZ Auto ???

[jerseyhighlander]

Had a CL ad come up today fairly close to home so jumped on it, maybe a little fast but the price was right, mostly.

One of the saws was a Super EZ Auto which after closer examination, may be a bit of a Franken-saw. It's got a UT# which still confound me and a serial # that's a bit different. Hopefully someone can help with dating it, or at least a casual, no strings attached relationship .

IMG_5785 by Kyle, on Flickr

I may pull the carb tomorrow and see what the date is on that.


The ad stated that there was a problem with the starter. When I met the guy in a parking lot, he had the saws and stuff and the recoil spring was out loose, but not damaged. When I got it home and looked closer, I was a little set off that I hadn't noticed this saw has a plastic starter/recoil cover, not the cool chromed grill that they usually have & one of my favorite features of that model. I wasn't even aware they made the Super EZ Auto with any plastic but started wondering if he couldn't fix it because it's the wrong one for this saw, scavenged from a newer model. Found a thread on this board that said about the air filter cover went to plastic first, then the starter cover but my air filter cover is still the magnesium version. I will definetely be looking to do away with the plastic if an older version will fit. but there may be other issues and this may become a parts saw.

IMG_5781 by Kyle, on Flickr

IMG_5780 by Kyle, on Flickr


The flywheel is a Phelon but it has the dreaded light blue Wico coil on it, which has a bit of metallic based epoxy smeared over most of one end. Maybe the result of whatever caused the hopefully not original starter cover to be installed. Not sure where that's going to go but we'll see.

IMG_5779 by Kyle, on Flickr

He supposedly had this at a saw shop that couldn't get it running and when I turned the flywheel by hand to see what the compression was like, the flywheel is hitting the coil.

The other saw and one of the 3 spare bars that came with may be the real prize from this lot, but the "other" saw will have it's own, non-Homelite thread. It's uh, uhm..., well shit, it's... yellow.
 

[Clasec]

268th day or Sep.25 of 1984. 44th unit built that day.

[jerseyhighlander]

Apr 8, 2018 21:36:02 GMT -5 Clasec said:

268th day or Sep.25 of 1984. 44th unit built that day.

Thanks. In this case, the F is the year?

Would 1984 be a year that would have come with the plastic starter cover? I just looked the cover over closer. It has what I call a date wheel, embossed into the injection mold. Either an 18 or 81 in the circle in the center. My money is on 81 and that being the year that part was made, but I will defer to the experts.

[Clasec]

Correct the F is the year. As far as the recoil I'll let someone who knows the exact year is was changed answer that. Nice find.

[sweepleader]

From what I have seen, the date wheel usually marks when the mold was last updated or fixed. Sometimes it means the date the part was molded. We have both ways here at work. I don't know when they went to plastic, sorry.

Regarding the Phelon/Wico deal, that is unlikely to work, no spark I mean. The epoxy on the coil is indeed a bad sign but with the right wheel it could still work. If so, no worries from me.

[Deleted]

Hi Charles,
                Regarding the yr.the saw was made,I know how the alphabet works with the saw yr.,but being that the letter F is the sixth letter of the alphabet,shouldn't the yr.of mfgr.be 1986?Please explain & clarify for me.Thanks!
     This post was made with due respect to all members involved.

[will]

I think the letter designation began in 1981 with the letter C, you can check your Homelite bulletins to verify

[Clasec]

Apr 9, 2018 7:53:48 GMT -5 edju1958 said:

Hi Charles,
                Regarding the yr.the saw was made,I know how the alphabet works with the saw yr.,but being that the letter F is the sixth letter of the alphabet,shouldn't the yr.of mfgr.be 1986?Please explain & clarify for me.Thanks!
     This post was made with due respect to all members involved.

houseofhomelite.proboards.com/thread/6140/figuring-out-when-homelite-built    Ed,This is what I used to date it. Charles.

[jerseyhighlander]

Regardless of whether the plastic starter cover is original or not, I should still be able to replace it with an earlier version, yes? Fit should still be the same.

[Deleted]

Let me check Kyle to verify,I have both recoils on saws here.I don't see any reason why it won't.I'll get back to you by this evening.
    This post was made with due respect to all members involved.

[brushcutter]

You will have to change the starter pawls to use the earlier cover. Model #10505-B had a Wico Prestolite electronic ignition and some of them used Phelon flywheels if they were out of Wico flywheels on the assembly line that day. The Phelon flywheel should have letter B stamped on it. I have a Model 10505-B saw with the same ignition system and recoil cover. I have one saw that the ignition module looks chewed up but it still works. Set the air gap between the module and flywheel at .015 and see if it has spark. Put the module somewhere 200* for a while and see if it starts working again if you don't have spark. Thanks to Leon for that tip! It has worked for me. Hope this helps!