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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 10:45:44 GMT -5
Back about a month ago I scored 3 SEZ's for $15 ea.At that price I figured I couldn't go wrong.I checked them all out & all 3 popped when I squirted fuel into the carbs.One had a broken on/off switch - I replaced it & tried to get it to pop again yesterday.I had no spark,so I disconnected the switch & tred again,still wouldn't pop.It seems to me that I read on a thread about blue coils not being the best.I don't know at this point if the coil went bad or if the points got fouled up & won't work.This saw has 145 psi.One of the other SEZ's pops when I put fuel in it,but there's something wrong with the clutch & the oiler is not working.I don't have any electrical testing equipment,so I can't check for resistance to see if the coil is any good.I don't want to pull the flywheel if I don't have to to get to the points.Sould I just change the coil & see if that's the problem?Is the coil fixed,or is there an air gap?If there's an air gap,what's the setting?According to Mike Acres'site,this saw has no points & was introduced in 1986.I know this to be false because the SEZ pictured is blue & white which was the color scheme up to 1973.I have 3 more EZ's to go through,(one of them being blue & white)but the one with 145 psi is definitely a good saw.
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Post by sweepleader on Jan 30, 2018 10:57:09 GMT -5
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Jan 30, 2018 11:38:29 GMT -5
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Jan 30, 2018 11:53:51 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 12:25:07 GMT -5
I do not believe they made a blue Super EZ automatic, just a a EZ automatic and a EZ manual oiler around 37cc. The EZ, EZAO, SEZAO line of saws was around a long long time and underwent many, many revisions, points no points, manual oiler, auto oiler, auto oiler with manual oiler. The drive case changed during the production run as well as many other parts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 18:52:45 GMT -5
May I ask why you don't like handling coils?Is it a health issue thing? I know some of the stuff they used in them back in the day was questionable at the least. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 18:59:02 GMT -5
May I ask why you don't like handling coils?Is it a health issue thing? I know some of the stuff they used in them back in the day was questionable at the least. I wouldn't ant to do it for the chance of being scammed, customer sends his back old coil or says the new one didn't work, or just trying to return the coil for any reason. Once an electrical part leaves the shop it should never return, but eBay and peoples unfair reviews can often ruin a business. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 19:06:36 GMT -5
I do not believe they made a blue Super EZ automatic, just a a EZ automatic and a EZ manual oiler around 37cc. The EZ, EZAO, SEZAO line of saws was around a long long time and underwent many, many revisions, points no points, manual oiler, auto oiler, auto oiler with manual oiler. The drive case changed during the production run as well as many other parts. Yeah Mike,I figured the old blue SEZ that I have wasn't an auto-oiler.Most of the older saws were all manual oilers.To have an auto-oiler back then on a saw was a "luxury".My dad never trusted the auto-oilers.He said that" when you press the manual oiler you know it's getting oil".I do agree,but auto-oilers have come a long way since their inception way back when.Both Homelite & McCulloch put both oilers on a lot of their saws.I'm not knocking McCulloch,but I believe they put both oilers on their saws because their auto-oilers weren't the best designed oilers in the world,especially their impulse oilers,therefore,they had to have a back-up manual oiler. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 19:16:41 GMT -5
The auto oiler wasn't so much just a luxury; it added weight to a saw. The XL-12 is lighter than the Super XL Automatic and after a day of use that weight makes a difference, the earlier saws being close to 20 pounds or more would not want any added weight or possible problems
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Post by dieseltech on Jan 30, 2018 20:25:14 GMT -5
Blue coil has no points. If you need a new coil Standard Magneto has them available for about $55. I put one on my SEZ works great
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 20:35:32 GMT -5
Blue coil has no points. If you need a new coil Standard Magneto has them available for about $55. I put one on my SEZ works great Do they have them for any Homelite saw? |
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Post by undee70ss on Jan 30, 2018 21:07:03 GMT -5
Blue coil has no points. If you need a new coil Standard Magneto has them available for about $55. I put one on my SEZ works great Do they have them for any Homelite saw? Just the prestolite/wico ones. |
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Jan 30, 2018 21:33:15 GMT -5
May I ask why you don't like handling coils?Is it a health issue thing? I know some of the stuff they used in them back in the day was questionable at the least. Well, there is potentially a health issue aspect now that you mention it. Lots of old electrical equipment had PCB's in the insulation, lead, all kinds of nasty stuff but that wasn't where I was going. The coil itself is lots of strands of small gauge wire embedded in some form of epoxy resin or urethane or early form of plastic depending on when it was made. They can be brittle after so many years and exposure to heat. Some are fine, some take almost nothing to crack or break apart. Doesn't take a lot to make the difference between A-OK and "dam, it's shorted". If I can hook up the leads to a multi-meter and test it without the risk, that's my route. Don't get me wrong, some of them you can take out and play ping pong with and put them back fine, but when you turn a good coil into a bad one from handling it, time to go shopping. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 22:06:27 GMT -5
The real kick in the butt here is that I HAD a multi-tester,got it for free from Harbor Freight ,but I sent it to my lady-friend in Philippines about 1 1/2 yrs.ago figuring I'd never need it.It couldn't have been that good if they gave them away,probably short out first time I used it.Lol Most of their stuff is made in China.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 22:19:33 GMT -5
The real kick in the butt here is that I HAD a multi-tester,got it for free from Harbor Freight ,but I sent it to my lady-friend in Philippines about 1 1/2 yrs.ago figuring I'd never need it.It couldn't have been that good if they gave them away,probably short out first time I used it.Lol Most of their stuff is made in China. In checking ohms resistance I would not think they would short out, or that you would need a real expensive model for basic small engine use |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 22:54:51 GMT -5
The auto oiler wasn't so much just a luxury; it added weight to a saw. The XL-12 is lighter than the Super XL Automatic and after a day of use that weight makes a difference, the earlier saws being close to 20 pounds or more would not want any added weight or possible problems Mike,I've used some really old saws that weighed a ton - old Remington & old Mall (God I wish I still had that old Mall),they were both manual oiled.Back when those saws were made I don't think they had the technology to put auto-oilers on the saws,It wasn't so much the added extra weight,I've never seen an auto-oiler that weighed 5 lbs.I don't think the first auto-oilers weighed more than 1/2 lb.,if that much.We're only talking a few oz.here.McCulloch was the first saw to weigh under 50 lbs.,then they were the first saw to weigh under 25 lbs.,& so on.I tried Googling when the first auto-oiler was introduced to the chainsaw,but nothing came up. |
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Post by chainsawlady on Jan 30, 2018 22:59:24 GMT -5
The real kick in the butt here is that I HAD a multi-tester,got it for free from Harbor Freight ,but I sent it to my lady-friend in Philippines about 1 1/2 yrs.ago figuring I'd never need it.It couldn't have been that good if they gave them away,probably short out first time I used it.Lol Most of their stuff is made in China. Again I see where people are talking about the blue coil. I guess it just upsets me as our Homelite representative. made it clear when the one piece ignition came into use it is a module not a coil. Anything without points and condenser is a module. He explained how they were different, but I have forgotten that part.chainsawlady |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 23:06:14 GMT -5
The auto oiler wasn't so much just a luxury; it added weight to a saw. The XL-12 is lighter than the Super XL Automatic and after a day of use that weight makes a difference, the earlier saws being close to 20 pounds or more would not want any added weight or possible problems Mike,I've used some really old saws that weighed a ton - old Remington & old Mall (God I wish I still had that old Mall),they were both manual oiled.Back when those saws were made I don't think they had the technology to put auto-oilers on the saws,It wasn't so much the added extra weight,I've never seen an auto-oiler that weighed 5 lbs.I don't think the first auto-oilers weighed more than 1/2 lb.,if that much.We're only talking a few oz.here.McCulloch was the first saw to weigh under 50 lbs.,then they were the first saw to weigh under 25 lbs.,& so on.I tried Googling when the first auto-oiler was introduced to the chainsaw,but nothing came up. I wasn't talking about the old saws or the big saws, the XL-12 wa around for 20 plus years because it was simple, lightweight and reliable, while it wasn't alot lighter than the SXLAO the direct drive manual oiler saws post 1964 were a big hit to the homeowner for their lightweight and simplicity. Homelite marketed many of those manual oiler saws to nonlumberjacked sized homeowners who would notice a pound or two while cutting firewood all day |
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Jan 30, 2018 23:09:10 GMT -5
The real kick in the butt here is that I HAD a multi-tester,got it for free from Harbor Freight ,but I sent it to my lady-friend in Philippines about 1 1/2 yrs.ago figuring I'd never need it.It couldn't have been that good if they gave them away,probably short out first time I used it.Lol Most of their stuff is made in China. That Tif multi-meter I posted above is a professional grade piece of equipment. $20.- all in, just can't be beat. It may look imposing but spend a half hour reading the manual, start playing with it, there really isn't anything that difficult about it. I've got several of the old Simpson multi-meters my father used working on the generators in the nuclear power plants and all, several high end modern digital Flukes... I may buy one of those Tif's just cause it's only $20.-. and like the Homelites, the old analog meters were just cool. |
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Post by sweepleader on Jan 31, 2018 7:22:26 GMT -5
I have 3 Simpson meters on the book shelf in my house cuz they are so cool. They are big and heavy, square, black Bakelite, one range each, and very cool.
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