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Post by brushy on Jan 6, 2018 12:10:10 GMT -5
Okay, so I’m a little bit lost. I needed to replace the oil line to the pump. I’m the third owner (that I know of), and I’m sure parts have been replaced with other than correct parts. The IPL I have is a little misleading, and I don’t think I have everything I’m supposed to. What I have right now is one piece of tubing (which is rotten) from the oil pump to the tank. There is no filter on it, and the replacement tubing I bought isn’t nearly long enough to reach down in the oil tank. If anyone has any info on this, I sure would appreciate it.
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Post by sweepleader on Jan 6, 2018 12:20:59 GMT -5
Post the UT and serial number of the saw, maybe a pic, what saw are you working on?
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Post by brushy on Jan 6, 2018 23:33:28 GMT -5
The saw is a UT10580A. I don’t know how to post pics on here, but the serial number is 2c2320072. Hope that helps. I’ve emailed Leon, and he told me it’s a Super EZ AOW. I’ve put some new parts on it, (ignition coil, muffler, air filter) but can’t seem to figure out the oil line.
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Post by sweepleader on Jan 7, 2018 12:35:26 GMT -5
There are several people here very familiar with SEZ and I am sure they will be along to help.
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Post by onlyhomelites on Jan 7, 2018 16:44:31 GMT -5
This is complicated, so I'm going to try not to confuse myself here! The Super EZ's prior to mid-April 1974 used a single oil pickup hose to feed both the manual and automatic oilers. This meant that the automatic oil pump had to pull oil from the tank, all the way through the manual oil pump reservoir and out to the bar pad. According the 1974 Service Memo (page 22 & 23), the changes made involved the drivecase, the automatic oil pump and the fuel/oil tank cover. Basically a second hole was drilled in the tank cover with a hose routed down to a barb on the oil pump. The new drivecase cover has a hole drilled in the appropriate spot to route the hose through. So all that being said, you may have most of what you need. The oil hose from the tank to the automatic oil pump needs to be 5.5" according to the manuals. Both pickup hoses should have the A-64293 oil filter on them (the second pickup hose for the manual oiler comes in from the starter side of the tank. Other filters may not work due to the low clearance in the tank and the small oil fill opening. Based on the year of your saw, this parts manual should be the right one: www.leonschainsawpartsandrepair.com/uploads/3/9/7/9/39792537/homelite_super_ez_chainsaw_ipl_24522-a_revision_3_.pdfI'm assuming your automatic oil pump has a hose barb on the muffler side of the pump? If so, all you need is the proper length hose and the filter and you'll be good to go. If not, you may have a mismatch of parts. Pictures would help if at all possible. |
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Post by brushy on Jan 7, 2018 21:28:10 GMT -5
So what I’ve found was an old hose coming from the hole on the left (as seen from the rear of the saw), which apparently should have a duckbill check valve in it. The hole on the right (if I’m looking at the parts diagram correctly) had a cotter pin in it. It looks to me like this is where the oil line should be. I will certainly post some pics if I can figure out how to. Many thanks for the help.
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Post by onlyhomelites on Jan 7, 2018 22:19:13 GMT -5
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Post by brushy on Jan 8, 2018 8:30:02 GMT -5
The auto oiler has a fitting for the oil tubing.
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Post by brushy on Jan 8, 2018 13:05:00 GMT -5
 2018-01-08_08-26-29 by Kris Ostling, on Flickr  2018-01-08_08-52-19 by Kris Ostling, on Flickr hope this works. The pic at top shows the two tiny holes where the the tubing(left) and cotter pin were sticking out. The bottom picture shows the nipple on the oil pump and the tiny hole under the oil tank cover that the cotter pin was in. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to buy a new saw just to have a properly working one to catch up on the work I have to do now. I still plan to get this saw and my b2316 fixed up and in working order, but those will be my hobby saws. |
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Post by undee70ss on Jan 8, 2018 14:33:23 GMT -5
Are you asking how the hose is routed?
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Post by undee70ss on Jan 8, 2018 14:37:13 GMT -5
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Post by brushy on Jan 8, 2018 14:46:33 GMT -5
Are you asking how the hose is routed? Yes, the hose doesnt seem near long enough, and it also looks like the diameter is way too big for the hole. Is it supposed to stretch down into the reservoir? The tubing i have is 3 1/2 inches. |
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Post by undee70ss on Jan 8, 2018 15:09:56 GMT -5
Yes, the hose doesnt seem near long enough, and it also looks like the diameter is way too big for the hole. Is it supposed to stretch down into the reservoir? The tubing i have is 3 1/2 inches. 3 1/2 is way to short. Hose needs to be 5 1/2. You will need a piece longer than that to install it. Assuming you have the proper size hose, the hose does fit tight. if it didn't, it would leak. I use the wire method for installing hoses. I don't know if Leon has a vid for that, but there are others on youtube. It only takes a few mins to install a hose. |
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Post by brushy on Feb 7, 2018 7:47:16 GMT -5
Well, I've finally finished. I'm very happy with the results. It oils like a champ now. I've read some other posts, and I believe someone said you can't adjust the the oil flow on the Super EZAO. This is unfortunate because it looks like the oil pump is putting too much oil out. I guess I'll just have to check the tank often. Thanks to all for your advice.
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Post by onlyhomelites on Feb 7, 2018 15:30:00 GMT -5
The pump & tank are supposed to be matched so that it runs out of oil at roughly the same time it runs out of fuel.
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Post by undee70ss on Feb 8, 2018 11:07:34 GMT -5
It’s better to have a little to much oil than not enough. Glad you got it fixed.
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Post by phtrqc on Oct 11, 2020 14:44:29 GMT -5
Hi all, just a quick question, here, as I just want to make sure everything is correct on my saw...
To my understanding, there is no duckbill valve on the oil line from the oil tank to the oil pump on a Super EZ ( Super MINI in Canada - UT 50058 SN T78 01813 )?
Note: I took the oil line apart from the oil tank and there was no oil filter... I ordered one ( A-64293 )... At least that will be fixed... But for the duckbill valve, I just want to clear that out of my mind...
Thanks!
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Post by edju1958 on Oct 11, 2020 15:02:44 GMT -5
You are correct,there is no duck bill valve on the oiling system on an SEZ.Good catch on the missing oil filter though.If you shake yopur saw with an empty tank & the cap on you can probably hear it rattling around in the tank.If so,you might be able to get it out by taking the cap off & shake it vigorously.Keep a keen eye out for that pick up (filter) as it's quite small.
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