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Post by sweepleader on Nov 18, 2017 6:29:39 GMT -5
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Post by onlyhomelites on Nov 18, 2017 7:42:43 GMT -5
I never have, but I've considered outfitting one bar with it for cutting stumps, roots, etc... I just have never pulled the trigger since it really is a decent cost.
Just for grins, I looked at grinding wheels for this type of chain...$80-90, it's a helluva investment!
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Nov 18, 2017 8:48:04 GMT -5
Takes away my ability to sharpen it myself so I wouldn't even consider it.
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Post by tjthechainsawmech on Nov 18, 2017 9:53:09 GMT -5
If you are Just cutting fire wood it's a waste of money in my opinion. Expensive to have and expensive to sharpen. Takes a diamond grinding wheel to sharpen those. One of the particular grinders I use costs around $250. But they do last alot longer than a regular chain as far as a sharp edge so maybe it all evens out.
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Post by sweepleader on Nov 18, 2017 18:25:45 GMT -5
I guess the real test would be to find a professional cutter who used one.
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Nov 18, 2017 21:15:35 GMT -5
I think tjthechainsawmech touched on the root of the issue. What justifies the extra cost, not only of a chain that's several times more expensive than regular chain but also the added cost of being dependent on professional sharpening services from there on in or buying expensive equipment for sharpening.
For firefighters or rescue services, who have to keep going despite hitting things that would dull a normal chain, I'd say justified.
For industry with large operations where saws need to keep running & downtime has a significant cost and the expense of sharpening equipment can be spread out over lots of chains and in a production environment... Probably justified.
For most ordinary wood cutters, including smaller professional outfits, a normal chain should last long enough and it's not that big a deal to take five minutes and put a file to it, no third party and extra cash required. To a large extent, the carbide isn't going to cut anything the regular chain can't too.
Spent decades working in professional woodshops, always had carbide tipped blades on the tablesaws and router bits. Yep, they lasted longer but you weren't just tied to a sharpening outfit, you had to have several of the same blade, to use while the others were out for sharpening. Companies are always coming up with the everlasting pencil, you never have to sharpen, as long as you keep buying their proprietary replacement leads.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 23:37:35 GMT -5
I think tjthechainsawmech touched on the root of the issue. What justifies the extra cost, not only of a chain that's several times more expensive than regular chain but also the added cost of being dependent on professional sharpening services from there on in or buying expensive equipment for sharpening. For firefighters or rescue services, who have to keep going despite hitting things that would dull a normal chain, I'd say justified. For industry with large operations where saws need to keep running & downtime has a significant cost and the expense of sharpening equipment can be spread out over lots of chains and in a production environment... Probably justified. For most ordinary wood cutters, including smaller professional outfits, a normal chain should last long enough and it's not that big a deal to take five minutes and put a file to it, no third party and extra cash required. To a large extent, the carbide isn't going to cut anything the regular chain can't too. Spent decades working in professional woodshops, always had carbide tipped blades on the tablesaws and router bits. Yep, they lasted longer but you weren't just tied to a sharpening outfit, you had to have several of the same blade, to use while the others were out for sharpening. Companies are always coming up with the everlasting pencil, you never have to sharpen, as long as you keep buying their proprietary replacement leads. I knew this "Einstein" that decided to weld carbide on to his rotor tiller tines, then sharpen them like a knife, for what he spent he could have bought several sets of tines that would have lasted him a lifetime and wouldn't have broken the gearbox when it hit a rock. |
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