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Post by husqy445 on Mar 26, 2013 18:24:01 GMT -5
Are the "C" model "Homeys" orphans or something? Don't really see any support for the C-5, C-51, C-91, etc...
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Post by dynodave on Mar 27, 2013 10:01:25 GMT -5
Seems to me that anything homelite prior to 2000/john deer is an orphan. My homelite saws are mostly pre 62, except for 1 XL12 and 1 330. I was given one late model homelite string trimmer...IIRC it needed a carb kit. Parts?  good luck, craigs list, ebay, and supportive NOS dealers. Tech ask here on HOH |
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Post by hotrodsuperxl on Mar 27, 2013 12:09:49 GMT -5
I've brought up the topic relating to the lack of a place for the C-series..... But I seriously think that there's just not much interest in them......ooooor just not enough people to warrant a specific section.....
Anyhow, what C-series do you have?
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Post by 925fetish on Mar 27, 2013 13:54:03 GMT -5
I have three of them one C-51,and two C-72's.They are pro-grade bullet proof tractors.A little slow,but you will have a hard time wearing one out.
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Post by husqy445 on Mar 27, 2013 17:55:33 GMT -5
Anyhow, what C-series do you have? I just bought a C-51 to restore. |
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Post by tribulation138 on Mar 27, 2013 19:54:32 GMT -5
i dont think they were around along enough.. styles changed quickly and so did competition back then with other saw makers. So many good saws made by many makers back in the 50,60,70s
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Post by riseandrun on Mar 27, 2013 20:37:47 GMT -5
I just got a C-7 but missing the spark plug cap. The IPL show's it has a separate wire and plug, but I don't think the coil is going to work very good after pulling the wire out. It was "glued" in. Anybody got any experience with this?
Thanks
KW
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Post by dynodave on Mar 28, 2013 6:24:18 GMT -5
Hi
I routinely work with high voltage equipment but am new to specifically old chain saws.
I'd dig out the old "glue/epoxy" by applying a heat gun and digging the coils wire exit hole with a blunt plastic "digger". It seems you have nothing to lose anyway. If the old HV wire was attached by a "screw on terminal" then rescrewing a new piece of HV wire and refilling the hole with epoxy or bondo like polyester filler would get you back in business.
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Post by 925fetish on Mar 28, 2013 14:07:06 GMT -5
They were around for many many years,and there is alot of them sitting aroud in sheds and old barns waiting to be redescovered.
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Post by riseandrun on Mar 28, 2013 20:24:11 GMT -5
Dynodave, thanks for that info. I need to find a new spark plug wire and plug and give it a try. There is a stud sticking out of the coil that looks like the wire could "press" into it.
I bought some 7mm copper core wire for my motorcycle, I'm thinking that might work if I can find a plug end that's shaped at a 45 degree angle.
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Post by lesorubcheek on Mar 29, 2013 8:59:05 GMT -5
I consider the Cs more as ancestors than orphans. That's really not correct either considering the 52/72 were around even I believe into the late 70s or 80s.
The engineering that evolved the Cs into the 1000/1020/1050 and finally into the 2000/2100 is amazing, if you're into the mechanical side of saws. Even more amazing is the gear drive side of them. First with the convertible concept and then the 1100/1130 and finally 3100 gear drives. All this started from the very first C.
It's easy to catch C fever too if you're not careful. It's already been said, but they are built like tanks. Easy to work on also.
Dan
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Post by dynodave on Mar 29, 2013 13:06:16 GMT -5
Granted and admitted I don't know much about the whole line of pre john deere and chinese saws. I've looked at the first EZ through 7XXD/G &9XXD/G with their vertical pistons and bottom mounted carb/reeds. Then from what I've seen the C are rearward pointing horizontal cylinders with top mounted carb & reeds. The C's were heavy and must have evolved into the lighter design XL's with the same configuration. The seem to have the same ook to them.
I'll eventually find out more and if this is more or less true.
cheers
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Post by lesorubcheek on Mar 29, 2013 21:33:24 GMT -5
The Cs predate the XL-12 by a year or so. Cs started around 62. There's been stories of the designer of the XL-12 that went around to other saw manufacturers and designed a new lightweight saw for multiple brands after he finshed the XL-12 for Homelite. Not sure if this is true, so please take it with a grain of salt. It'd be a great story to hear all the details. It's a fact though that by the mid to late sixties there were Pioneers, Poulans, Remingtons, and others that all had their lightweights and all looked very similar to the XL-12.
Whether or not the C series was somehow an inspiration for the new XL-12 would be nice to hear about. They do have the same cylinder orientation, but theres pratically no parts that interchange between a C and an XL-12. Personal opinion is the XL-12 really seemed to be more of a quantum jump than an evolution. Just don't think there was a saw like it before. May well be wrong, but just based on what I've heard so far.
May well be wrong, but also believe the Cs were modelled after Macs of the period. I don't know many details of the early Mac history, but do know saws starting with the D30 all had a horizontal cylinders. These were I believe all the way back in the late 50s. I'm a Homelite guy through and through, but it does seem McCulloch was the primary innovation for many other manufacturers, especially in the 50s and 60s.
Dan
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