Coil Questions

[woodplayer]

I thought I would start a new thread as I have some questions about the ignition system of my XL1, which I believe is similar to the SEZ. You may recall my original thread about some saws.

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While I was looking at the SEZ IPL, I noticed a few things that didn't make sense.

Here are some sections of the IPL for the SEZ I am referring to, as well as photos of the breaker point area and flywheel of the saw in question.










The saw came without a coil/core, so I have not seen what it should look like and am trying to determine the correct coil/core needed.

I originally thought that the item#60 coil/core is what I need since the shape of the breaker points housing box and the cover
associated with item #60 coil/core looks the same as what I have. However the condensor as well as the way the breaker point cover appears to snap on (instead of fasten with a screw) for the parts associated with the other coil/core (items 71 and 70) looks the same as I have.

To make matters even more confusing, I noticed in the IPL for the item #60 coil and core there is a (W). According to a note further down the IPL page, this (W) refers to "WICO" parts. This note also indicates that "Complete magneto must be (W) "Wico" or (P) 'Phelon". Phelon and Wico parts are not individually interchangeable." Yet when I look at my flywheel, it is a "Phelon" part. This would put two different types (Wico-points vs. Phelon-flywheel) together which may not be suitable?

I am wondering if perhaps the other coil/core (items 71 and70) which are designated with a (P) is what I am missing instead of coil/core item 60.

To further complicate matters, both the cover for the points as well as the flywheel on the saw are stamped with "REPCO" (This may be irrelevant)

Does anyone have thoughts on what coil/core is correct for my saw? (item70 and 71 or item60)

Would anyone be able to check their XL1 or SEZ saws to see what manufacturer is on the flywheel, coil/core, and points. Actual photos of these would be preferred if you are able .

Hopefully I haven't caused too much confusion.

Thanks guys

[chainsawwhisperer]

I'll try to bust out my sez later and check it out for you. CSW

[woodplayer]

Hey chainsawwhisperer did you get a chance to look at your saw.

Anyone else able to take a look at what they got or post some photos.

thanks

[chainsawwhisperer]

I haven't gotten to it yet, sorry. Been super busy, I'll be outside spliting wood today after work. I'll try to open it up and take some pics. CSW

[chainsawwhisperer]

WP, I didn't get to the saw today. I'll try and take it to work and
pull it apart and take the pics. Sorry about the delay. CSW

Here's my pile of wood from the past few days. a couple of hours after work each day.

[woodplayer]

Let me guess, you use the kids slide to help deliver the wood through an open basement window.

[chainsawwhisperer]

No, but that's a good idea. Acually, I run the splitter in my son's swing set area. The area is filled with cushion mulch, so clean up is a lot easier.

[chainsawwhisperer]

Your not going to belive this. I get the saw to work, take it apart,
1 pic into it and the camara battery dies. Anyway, the saw appears to have a wico electronic ignition. The number embossed on the body of the coil is X18050.
I'll still post pics if you want, let me know. Sorry. the CSW

[SkiPro]

Hi,
I think what you have here is a Wico breaker point / condensor ignition that was converted to a solid state system. Someone probably took out the solid state coil IPL item # 14 (a prized item to be sure) and thus the confusion. As you stated, the Wico / Phelon breaker point / condensor ignition systems require unique points, condensor, and flywheels. Hope this helps.

SkiProIII - Mark

[sugarcreeksaws]

Good afternoon, woodplayer,
I will look at my little red XL1 this weekend and let you know what mine has in it...I think it is still original.
Talk to you soon!
Joe

[woodplayer]

chainsawwhisperer - I know the feeling, batteries always go at the most inopportune time.

shiproiii - I actually have that item #14 solid state coil that I pulled out of an XL76 (working) and had tried it in this saw. It did spark but very weak and would not fire up the saw. That has me thinking that I may need the WISO flywheel to mate up with a solid state coil in this (XL1) saw if I was to go the solid state route.

sugarcreeksaws- thanks I would appreciate that!!

[woodplayer]

Ok I know spring is here and you guys likely have other things on your mind (for sure the robbins and squirrels around here have been acting strange), but I still haven' seen any photos or comments on the flywheel and coil manufacture on your XL1 or SEZ.

Any help would be appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!