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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Mar 4, 2008 9:48:27 GMT -5
Angel, did you get the 360 running?
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Post by angel on Mar 4, 2008 14:04:51 GMT -5
No, honestly haven't had time to mess with it, it's still sitting on my shop floor. I still think its the magneto, but I have not had time to look at it more closely. I just had a load of logs dumped in the backyard and I want to get them cut up and gone before the winter storm hits tonight, and it l;ooks like I will have to use a non-Homelite saw for it. At least I am using a Made in USA saw.
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Mar 4, 2008 15:55:09 GMT -5
Well, keep us posted about the 360.
Have fun and be careful cutting up those logs.
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Post by woodburner44 on Mar 4, 2008 19:33:45 GMT -5
The spark ck is easy. Tape the wires of an NE-2 neon bulb on the transformer, about where the end of the spark plug is, and pull the rope. If the neon bulb blinks at you the entire ignition system is ok. Difficult to see in bright light. Might want to move saw into dim light for the check.
If there is no blinking...change components one-at-a-time to isolate bad part. Transformer and spark plug are easiest to start with.
IMHO the 360's are just the best.
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Post by RBW on Mar 4, 2008 22:10:37 GMT -5
Woodburner:
Thanks for jogging my memory!
Last year I ment to get a bunch of these bulbs buy never got around to it. I have a "SET" of known ignition components in a box for these situations and I just go through the saw when they wont fire untill it does.
But the bulb trick is a good one.
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Post by angel on Mar 4, 2008 22:56:58 GMT -5
Whats an NE-2 bulb and where can I get one?
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Post by woodburner44 on Mar 4, 2008 23:59:43 GMT -5
An NE-2 is a small neon bulb with two bare wire leads. It, or a similar neon bulb can be purchased at Radio Shack or other electronics outlet. Very handy for testing all kinds of ignition systems.
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Post by angel on Mar 5, 2008 18:08:43 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, this wouldn't be a points ignition system, would it? Acres site says the 360 had solid state ignition, but mine looks like a pretty early model 360.
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Post by RBW on Mar 5, 2008 19:41:58 GMT -5
All of the 350/360 saws were electronic AFAIK.
They share the same ignition with the larger saws of this same design.
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Post by edgeandengine on Mar 5, 2008 20:39:07 GMT -5
angel, if you want to pay return postage, I'll send you a test kit. I can't remember what all it has in it, but I know that it has a clear transformer (goes over the spark plug) with an embedded neon bulb to see whether it's working. Send me an email if you want to...you know where to send it.
Kyle
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Post by RBW on Mar 5, 2008 21:35:46 GMT -5
Hey kyle, where do you get them?
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Post by lesorubcheek on Mar 5, 2008 22:29:18 GMT -5
All of the 350/360 saws were electronic AFAIK. They share the same ignition with the larger saws of this same design. . Yep, as far as I know this is right on. One little exception is the 35SL had a little offset bracket and used a module about the same as in the 330 (at least according to its IPL). Magnus mentioned something a while back on his forum about a 360 with points, but I've personally never heard of this. Dan |
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Post by angel on Mar 6, 2008 0:21:46 GMT -5
Well mine has a black coil module and appears to be a very early model 360, jusging by the amount of wear on it, the sticker and decal designs and lack of chain brake/hand guard.
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Post by RBW on Mar 6, 2008 0:33:12 GMT -5
The coils on these, actually the entire ignition system is black, as is the 3 piece and 2 piece on the 9xx series saws. The blue coil I think your thinking of (if Im correct in what your saying) are found in the saws with the one piece ign system, Ie the SXL.
Its confusing some times with how some people talk about the ign setups and what homelite actually did. But yes, these electronic systems are black.
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Post by woodburner44 on Mar 6, 2008 3:15:22 GMT -5
 My first 360 was bought used and had a Craftsman label. It was stolen and I replaced it with a new one, when Homelite was still making them. The saws were identical except for the adjustable bar oil output. The new and improved (read cheaper) design is the fixed oil output. If there were any with points ignition, it must have been a very early model.
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Post by edgeandengine on Mar 6, 2008 11:28:25 GMT -5
RBW, I got them with a bunch of Homelite parts I bought from a retiring dealer. I see the kit also has a spare coil, plus instructions. Here's a pic of the transformer-tester:   |
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Post by RBW on Mar 6, 2008 22:45:00 GMT -5
Man O man does that give me ideas......
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Mar 9, 2008 16:44:34 GMT -5
Man O man does that give me ideas...... . Pardon me for being dense (i've been in a highway plow since Fri. afternoon) but what are your ideas? |
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Post by RBW on Mar 9, 2008 17:04:22 GMT -5
Basically manufacturing these out of usused coils, or making something similar to fit over the standard coil setup. ;D
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Post by angel on Mar 9, 2008 21:34:20 GMT -5
Update: I have neglected my 360 project for the last few weeks, as repairing broken snow removal equipment took a bigger priority. Replacing a hydro pump motor in a Denny's parking lot at 3am in -20 windchill is not an activity I wish to repeat anytime soon. We finally got a break in the snow last week and I am working on it again.
E&E has let me borrow the ignition test kit shown above and so far it indicates that my coil has either bit the dust or the air gap is not set properly. Seeing as the problem had developed after the gap had been set and the saw seemed to be running correctly I am assuming it is likely the coil. I had a recoil problem as well and I am using a cordless drill to turn the motor over for testing purposes.
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