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Post by onlyhomelites on Jul 13, 2022 19:57:37 GMT -5
If the duckbill was no good, you should be able to get the idle to come up by opening the oil cap. It also wouldn't be sucking oil unless the duckbill was submerged.
I'm wondering if the carb has been changed out and something isn't compatible, but we'd definitely need to see a few pics.
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 13, 2022 20:13:22 GMT -5
It was my intention to pull the saw apart today & get some pics on here,but things didn't quite work out.I had a dr.appointment this a.m.& after I got home I got consumed by the C51.Tomorrow I'll have the engine out of the case & pics taken & put on here.Maybe I'll get lucky & find where I screweed up.I don't know didly about this saw as my neighbor bought it at an auction for $25 & now he wants me to work miracles.Sorry,I'm not Jesus who can just wave his hand.
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 14, 2022 19:43:14 GMT -5
No need for pics,the problem has been solved.It seems that someone was in the saw before me & had crossed the oil lines.This being the first XL I worked on assumed the oil lines were correct from the start,so I just followed suit.I had the saw pulled apart & was going to take pics to post,but I had anotyher points model XL nearby & I pulled it apart to compare.Once I saw the oil line configuration I knew what was wrong immediaterly.I switched the oil lines,put it back together & waited for the smoke to clear up & the tank to pressurize & it was oiling the chain like it's supposed to.I apologize to everyone who helped me & thank them all for their help.At age 64 I'm still learning & proud to admit it. Edit:I'll get a pic of the little bugger on here tomorrow.
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Post by okie on Jul 15, 2022 6:54:06 GMT -5
Been few years back: I've crossed them oil lines my myself on them type as previously mentioned in previous post and I did not have another one to look at and could not really believe they were crossed because the lines fit better crossed. A forum member posted me a Homie drawing of the correct routing from a service manual. I should have filed the drawing or drawn one myself and throwed it in my Homie files.
Your neighbor will be proud of you until it quits again. He might even go buy some more saws for you to fix for him and let you help him cut some wood.
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 15, 2022 9:27:38 GMT -5
Okie,I can assure you that after all the brain rattling in my head & causing aggravation to others here,this is something that I'll not soon forget! I'm going to tell my neighbor to follow my instructions for taking care of the saw & if he doesn't then he can find someone else to work on his saw.He doesn't use it to cut firewood per se,he uses it for trimming & cutting brush.After all,it's only a little XL.I had another thread that tied in with this one & I said that I was going to "broaden my horizons" by working on this XL.I certainly have done that.I found a few XL & XL2 saws out in my shed that I didn't think I'd ever work on,but I dug them out the other day & went through them.They all fired on a prime because they had electronic ignitions.I have one that was a points saw that's missing the flywheel,points & condenser,& the recoil assembly.I'm sure I could find those parts except for the point & condenser,I'd chip it.Time will tell on those other saws.Once they're out of their cases there's not really that much to them.
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Post by okie on Jul 15, 2022 11:01:06 GMT -5
Yep, about you will not soon forget the crossed oil lines and neither will I.
When I got into that, I could not blame it on Bubba, I crossed them myself and when I just look at one of them type Homies I get flashbacks.
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Post by blythkd on Jul 15, 2022 16:46:13 GMT -5
You all are driving me crazy with all the crossed lines talk:)
So on plunger/diaphragm type oilers on XL's and Super 2's the proper orientation of the lines is for them to be "crossed" when hooking them to the saw.
Are you saying that on the XL pressurized oiler system, that they should not be crossed when hooking them up? Or they should be crossed just like the others?
It's been too long since I've messed with one. I would just like to clarify the issue so if anyone reads this thread for guidance in the future, they won't be confused.
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 15, 2022 20:22:30 GMT -5
They should be crossed in the form of an X.If they run parallel they're not right (II).I figured that I'd post a pic of the little devil.Whatever yr.the letter H stands for is the yr.it was made.Funny thing (not funny at the time though),my neighbor stopped by to pick up the saw & I wanted to show him it was oiling.Do you think I could get that little bugger to start?Come to find out it was apparently too low on fuel.I added more fuel& it started right up.Here are a couple pics of the saw.
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Post by blythkd on Jul 15, 2022 21:05:24 GMT -5
You sure that's a pressurized tank oiler saw? That's not the vintage of saw I was expecting. All the pressurized tank XL's that I recall had the shorter top handle and were older. That saw looks like one with an oil pump and I agree, the oil lines absolutely should be crossed to function.
Only other scenario I can think of is maybe someone put an older saw in a newer case?
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 15, 2022 21:16:19 GMT -5
It's definitely a pressurized oiling system,& as far as I know it's original.I don't even know if an older engine would fit in a newer case.This saw does NOT have the oil pump.As far as I know the older XLs had the oil pumps in them like the older Super2s.You'll have to understand that as Homelite developed these saws they made them cheaper.I'm not calling my neighbor & have him bring his saw by so I can pull it apart to prove a point.
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Post by bobby167 on Jul 16, 2022 7:59:42 GMT -5
H= 1986 TSB # 195-006 should help, or not, explains different oil line routing. It is dated 11/95. It shows new oil tanks, but, second page has proper routing for the XL / Super 2 & others, on the oil lines. Look on this site, under Leons Chainsaw Parts and Repair. Go to Homelite Service Memo's. The TBS is there.
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