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Post by edju1958 on May 11, 2021 9:20:08 GMT -5
I've got 2 XL-101s that I've had for about 3 yrs.& I finally got around to working on them again.Both of them have leaking oil tanks,one has the gasket & the other was epoxied.Both saws have very good compression & spark & I got the gasketed saw to fire on a prime.Someone must've had the knowledge to use the 68046 grommets in place of the molded fuel line because I went to put a new line in yesterday & saw the grommets in place.It was quite a feat to get the new line in even after lubing it with oil because every time I tried to pull the line into the tank the grommet got sucked in too.I had to hold the grommet in place while pulling the line in.The same applied to the line going into the air box.Now that the line is in I need to pull the carb for a rebuild. The saw with the epoxied oil tank has a broken screw that holds the crankcase together.Would it still be OK to run the saw with one broken screw in the crankcase?All the other screws are in place & they're tight.
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Post by edju1958 on May 12, 2021 13:39:41 GMT -5
The "better" saw really screwed with me yesterday.I rebuilt the carb & put it on the saw & noticed the throttle rod boot had turned to black sludge & then hardened & stuck to the throttle rod.I have a parts 103 that I looked at & saw the boot was like new,so I popped it out & that's when all the chit started.I went to put the boot into the 101,but it wouldn't fit for anything.I looked at the IPLs & they all took the same part #,so it shopuld've fit.I got to thinking that maybe the holes for the boot were a different size,so I went & got my box of drill bits & sure enough the 101 hole was smaller than the 103 hole.I pulled out my truty 3/8 drill & found it wouldn't accept the drill bit I needed to use,so back out to the garage to get my 1/2 in.drill.I drilled out the hole on the 101 so it would accept the boot from the 103 & it popped right in.Now my kitchen was littered with saw parts,a saw,& lots of tools,Lol.After cleaning up my clutter it was 9:30 p.m.& time to call it quits for the day. Now today was a bit different.I had to reassemble the handle & trigger assembly,put the carb back on & attach the fuel line.I pulled & pulled on the saw & it wouldn't fire.I pulled the plug & it was wet,so it was getting fuel.I checked for spark & it had spark.I put a different plug in & it fired right up! The only thing is I'm afraid it might need crank seals.I had to turn the idle screw all the way out & it still was running too fast.I ended up turning the lo screw out to 2 full turns & now it's running rich.I'll get pics on here after I get the oil tank cover back on,just waiting on a gasket.
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Post by edju1958 on May 12, 2021 20:27:58 GMT -5
I just couldn't wait,here are the pics.
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Post by xl130 on May 23, 2021 17:04:21 GMT -5
They’re great saws!
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Post by edju1958 on Jun 9, 2021 20:09:40 GMT -5
I had to wait for over 3 weeks to get my parts order from Bob,he's pushing 82,so I guess he's entitled to take his time,Lol.Anyway,I got the long awaited oil tank gasket.I put it on & went to hook up the oil line & the fitting that screws into the tank broke off in the oil line fitting.Go figure! As it turned out I had the oil line & the fitting from an XL-103 that fit up perfectly.I put oil in the tank & watched for any leaks & sure enough there was a leak,but not from around the new gasket,or the oil line or fittings.I had to take the recoil cover off to find out that some bozo had used a longer screw than was required for the recoil to bolt on & inmstead of putting it where it wouldn't matter,they put it in right over the oil tank & now the tank has a hole in it.I think that's where the leak was all along when I got the saw 3 yrs.ago.Now I have to devise a way to seal the hole,I'm thinking Seal All.
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Post by tangobravo on Jun 9, 2021 20:35:23 GMT -5
I had a long bolt piercing on my oil tank on my Super Mini from a similar incident . On the forward handle bar bracket, someone used a too long, and sharp pointed, 10/32 screw and punched a nice auxilary oiling port on the lower position. I repaired it with a small set-screw using red locktite. It has worked very well. No leaks and could use the correct original replacement to hold the handle bracket again.
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Post by edju1958 on Jun 11, 2021 19:00:54 GMT -5
I moved on to the 2nd 101 today after having failures on the C9 & XL-103.I cut a small piece of tubing (3/8 in.long) & after sanding it the best I could I put it in the hole for the oil passage & it fit fairly well.Next I cleaned up both surfaces of the oil tank & cover with alcohol.Then I put a light coat of Moto Seal on both surfaces & clamped the 2 pieces together.I'll check for leaks on Sun.,that should give it a good cure time.If it leaks I'll just toss the saw in the "I don't know" bin.If it doesn't leak,then I move on to the ignition with getting spark back on the saw,& finally carburetion is my last step.Too many variables at this point.
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Post by tangobravo on Jun 11, 2021 20:39:41 GMT -5
Your shop must be busier than Willie Wonka's chocolate factory! How many Oompa Loompas ya got there Ed?!
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Post by edju1958 on Jun 11, 2021 20:45:54 GMT -5
I wish I had a couple of 'em that could fetch parts & tools for me,Lol.
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Post by edju1958 on Jun 13, 2021 22:07:13 GMT -5
After waiting 3 1/2 weeks to get the parts I needed I seemed to have misplace the oil tank conversion kit that I had for XL-101 #2.After spending 1 1/2 hrs.looking for it I finally said screw it & packed the saw up in a box & put it in the garage.I'm sure as hell not paying another $15 to get another kit.Just a bad day for me all around.
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Post by edju1958 on Jun 20, 2021 12:23:13 GMT -5
Well,good news & gooder news (Lol).I found the oil tank conversion kit & now I need to make a 8-32 bottoming tap.
With the oil leak on saw #1 I put Seal All in the boss for the screw that someone had put too long of a screw into & punctured a hole in the oil tank.I had to get the Seal All out for another job & while I was at it I did the XL-101 oil tank leak.I do believe it was a success! I filled the tank with oil & had the recoil off & there was no oil running all over like before.I gave the plunger a few pumps & it pumped oil to the bar pad.
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Post by edju1958 on Jun 20, 2021 22:20:39 GMT -5
I spoke too soon,the tank is still leaking,but not quite as bad.I have a rear handle assembly from a 103.I'm thinking of using that on the 101,but I'd have to plug off the automatic oiler line.The saw would look a bit weird too - blue saw with a red handle,Lol.
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 7, 2021 16:51:58 GMT -5
I had a go at saw #2 today.This is the saw with the epoxied oil tank cover.I've had the conversion kit for about as long as I've owned the saw (about 3 yrs.now).One of the O rings had gotten lost out of the kit,but I picked up a couple more at the hardware store last month.I needed an 8-32 bottoming tap,didn't have one & I wasn't going to buy one that I'd only use once,so I just ground the tip off one in my tap & die set.Of course the gasket in the kit was a story in itself.It was broke in half due to being handled so much & whoever made it forgot to punch out a hole for the dowel pin on the bottom.I had an old gasket on hand & laid that on top of the new gasket & drilled it out.I used a light coating on both sides of the gasket with Permatex MotoSeal.It's all together now just waiting for the gasket maker to cure.I almost forgot to mention that there was a problem with trying to do a countersink for the long threaded screw.Don't ever try to do a countersink on magnesium with a new drill bit.The bit just got sucked right into that soft metal & instead of having a hole that was 5/32,it's now 1/4 in.A little more MotoSeal & it shouldn't leak.If this doesn't work,then I'll get a used rear handle assembly & convert it to a normal oil tank.
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 8, 2021 19:00:38 GMT -5
I didn't get much done with saws today.I did manage to get some screws out of the crankcase on a XL-103 parts saw & cut them a bit shorter to be used on the oil tank cover on the same saw.I'll be switching the rear handle assembly on the 1st XL-101 as it still leaks oil. I'll check the oil tank cover conversion tomorrow to see if that one leaks or not.Hopefully it's good to go.If it is good to go,I'll be putting a new set of points & condenser in it.
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Post by stillsawing on Jul 8, 2021 19:20:33 GMT -5
Holy smokes Ed, all that effort makes me tired, and I have not touch your saw!
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 8, 2021 20:00:55 GMT -5
Yeah,I was going too say that I'm getting tired of these 2 saws biting me in my behind,Lol
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 15, 2021 19:06:26 GMT -5
I got a different tank handle from Leon & put it onto the XL-101 today.The new handle is from a 104,so it's red.It was nothing to switch out the old handle & put the new one on.I still need to connect the carb & fuel line & get either a plug or a cap for the bottom line fitting that comes out of the oil tank.That line is for an auto oiler which the 101 doesn't have.The 2 101s I have will be very "unique"looking,Lol.When I'm finished I'll definitely get some pics on here.
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 16, 2021 20:14:49 GMT -5
The saga continues.....Today I pulled the handle off saw #2 & replaced it with what I thopught was an XL-103 handle.Things weren't swapping over the way they should've.The oil cap from the 101 was too small & the oil pump plunger was too big,also the idle speed screw wouldn't fit either.Come to find out after I used an oil cap out of my XL-123 I figured out that the handle I'd put on the 101 was from a 123.It bolted right on,but as I said,things didn't swap over like they should've.Now before I go ordering anymore parts for this saw I think it'd be best to put a carb on the saw & see if it'll run at all.
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 18, 2021 22:01:33 GMT -5
WWell so much for that idea of just bolting on a carb.The carb that was on this saw got put on the 103 about 2 yrs.ago because I thought at the time the original carb on the 103 wasn't any good.I had that carb laying here with a new kit in it & it won't hold pressure.I fiddled with it a bit the other day & got nowhere.I think the problem is in the metering lever,so I'll pull the carb apart & try a different lever.The saw is supposed to use an SDC1,but I've got a good SDC81 that came off my XL-76 that holds pressure.Does anyone think the SDC81 will work?
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 21, 2021 19:04:57 GMT -5
These 101s are kicking me in my hindquarters.I took the SDC1 apart & readjusted the lever,put a different needle in it,& tried a different metering diaphragm & gasket,not all at once though.I got the carb to hold pressure,but it releases it too slowly.I'll try a whole new kit in it & if I don't get the results I want I'll just have to try the SDC81. On the other 101 that I changed the handle out on because of the oil leak turned out to be another PITA.When I put the handle on this saw the coil wire got pinched so the wire wasn't long enough to go on the plug properly,it ended with no spark.I tried pulling the wire back out & it just pulled into pieces.Then the remaining piece that was left in the coil wouldn't screw out.I finally got the wire out of the coil by prying it out with a small screwdriver.That wire was about shot anyway due to yrs.of oil leaking on it.I'll replace the coil wire tomorrow & hopefully that'll be the last I'll have to contend with that 101.
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