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Post by ettrick on May 24, 2018 18:07:38 GMT -5
How many two prong clutch tools has homelite used over the years? Is there one that fits all the clutches? I see a picture of one on this site A-93791 for s clutch. Does this cover them all? I have the three prong already. Dan
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Post by sweepleader on May 24, 2018 20:16:27 GMT -5
This is what I use for everything, and many things besides chainsaws. 5643ap1s by Dan MacDonald, on Flickr
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Post by onlyhomelites on May 24, 2018 22:59:29 GMT -5
I believe that are two; one has a "protrusion" for fitting into the recessed hub that was used on some of the 60's saws, the later version is flat. The pin spacing is the same on both as far as I can remember.
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Post by undee70ss on May 25, 2018 1:28:26 GMT -5
There are also two 3 prong tools, one has a wider span than the other. Now the 3 hole clutch tool I like the most (like it so much I even bought a extra) is Homelite part# UP00032. This one bolts to the clutch cover (the one on the clutch directly.) I had to get off a rusty and very stuck Homelite 750 3 shoe clutch. Had a 18 in breaker bar and a 2.5-3 foot pipe on that also and it didn't break. A original Homelite tool and less than 20 bucks delivered. www.ebay.com/itm/Homelite-Tools-UP-00032-Clutch-HOM-UP00032/142772333464?hash=item213de4eb98:g:e1gAAOSw4dpa~ja5
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Post by undee70ss on May 25, 2018 11:54:47 GMT -5
I believe that are two; one has a "protrusion" for fitting into the recessed hub that was used on some of the 60's saws, the later version is flat. The pin spacing is the same on both as far as I can remember. The one with the protrusion, as you call it, is used for a lot of the bigger saw 6 shoe clutches.
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Post by ettrick on May 25, 2018 12:11:43 GMT -5
Wish i had not asked this question, i went from three stars down to one. Even a dumpster diver rating was better. Okay i was planning on getting the proper homelite tools so i can use my impact, makes it simple and quick. Why use breaker bars and the such, if an impact can take it off in a second much safer on me and the saw? Dan
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Post by undee70ss on May 25, 2018 12:54:23 GMT -5
A lot of times a impact will work, but that 750 was really stuck, I highly doubt a impact would have got it off. I usually use the rope method to hold engine and a breaker bar, just keep adding pressure till it busts loose. Impacts can be hard on clutch tools, especially the ones with the pins.
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Post by sweepleader on May 25, 2018 13:08:57 GMT -5
Not sure what the star comment refers to, the forum counts your posts and picks a rating based on that. I don't know if it can go backwards...
I would not suggest using an impact gun on a clutch tool. If you were to accidentally trigger it the wrong way there could be trouble in a hurry. I use one on the nuts on a crank but I am always very aware of the potential for damage, maybe you would be too. The other thing is none of the tools for wrenching clutches have impressed me for their strength, even the best tools collect wear and damage pretty fast with impact tools. If someone decides to go that way, I would suggest they not use the "stuff a rope in the spark plug hole" method but rely only on the inertia of the crank to hold it. Bearing or rod damage would be quite possible with the impact forces of a gun. As always, your mileage may vary.
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Post by undee70ss on May 25, 2018 13:14:43 GMT -5
Not sure what the star comment refers to, the forum counts your posts and picks a rating based on that. I don't know if it can go backwards... I would not suggest using an impact gun on a clutch tool. If you were to accidentally trigger it the wrong way there could be trouble in a hurry. I use one on the nuts on a crank but I am always very aware of the potential for damage, maybe you would be too. The other thing is none of the tools for wrenching clutches have impressed me for their strength, even the best tools collect wear and damage pretty fast with impact tools. If someone decides to go that way, I would suggest they not use the "stuff a rope in the spark plug hole" method but rely only on the inertia of the crank to hold it. Bearing or rod damage would be quite possible with the impact forces of a gun. As always, your mileage may vary. Thats one reason why I don't use impacts on clutches. I'm not racing anyone to get it off anyways.
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Post by undee70ss on May 25, 2018 13:32:28 GMT -5
Wish i had not asked this question, i went from three stars down to one. Even a dumpster diver rating was better. Im not really sure, but it has something to do with your ranking and post count. Everyone starts off as a Groundie. As you make posts your star count goes up till you get to next rating, Collector wannabe, then stars start over.
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Post by ettrick on May 25, 2018 14:03:20 GMT -5
I am learning! So the stars count up till you reach a different level, then start over again. I am very careful with impacts. I look at it a little differently. I would think i am much more likely to damage the saw or bend a connecting rod using breaker bars on tiny little engine parts. How do you hold the saw from that amount of torque applied with breaker bar? Some kinda vise? Dan
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Post by undee70ss on May 25, 2018 14:10:09 GMT -5
On that 750, I needed a extra person to hold it. Most others I do by myself.
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Post by undee70ss on May 25, 2018 14:19:56 GMT -5
Here are my Homelite clutch tools, with part numbers. Below is 2 prong tools. The one with what Leon calls a “protrusion” is for big saw 6 shoe clutches. 3 prong tools, these has the same spacing. Wider spaced 3 prong tool. I don’t know what saws it’s for, never used it. The bag is the pins, plus some extras. The pins fit the other tools too.
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Post by ettrick on May 25, 2018 14:47:47 GMT -5
Thank you for pictures! I am going to be adding to my tools for sure. I have to see if they are available of course. Dan
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Post by onlyhomelites on May 25, 2018 15:23:09 GMT -5
Protrusion, hub, nub....probably gonna go down hill if I keep going!
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 16:16:07 GMT -5
I wouldn't use a impact on anything attached to a small engine crankshaft. Longer lever and steady force is the way to go.
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Post by ettrick on May 25, 2018 18:16:05 GMT -5
Remember not all impacts are the size for taking off nascar wheels, and you can put torque limiters in line if desired. It took two seconds to do what i couldn't with hand tools, for an hour. If i continued i would have broken something. Worse yet i would have hurt myself straining. Most all shops i have been in, small engine or other shops have power tools ready to use.
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