A few Homelites I'm workin on

[woodplayer]

Hi Guys, greetings from Canada. I was given a few old Homelites and am in the process of trying to get at least some of them functional. I think I've met a few of you over on AS, where you've given me a hand with an oiler problem with the XL2, but I just recently found this site which relates specifically to Homelites!!

First off was the XL2 which now works but I will be needing a couple of the duck bill check valves. This saw eventually goes back to the guy that gave me these saws.

Next is an XL1 (UT10483), 41cc engine. I haven't actually found an XL1 IPL, but after some research it appears that the SuperEZAO IPL is similar?
This saw came without the coil and is a point type ignition. The saw has lots of compression (160psi) and is in relatively good shape, including the points.
I did a pressure and vacuum test and it's fine.
According to the SuperEZAO IPL, the part number for the coil I need is 68716. If anyone has a used one for sale, let me know, as I was hoping not to have to bite the bullet and pay for a NOS one.


I also noticed what appears to be a decompressor button, but it doesn't seem to do anything as I can't move it?


Next was a pair of XL76 (UT50150 and 50139). Again I haven't found an XL76 IPL, but likely a VI123 IPL which I found is similiar?
One has a badly scored piston and cylinder and the piston pin is loose and looks like it moved out and scored the cylinder.
Also the main bearings are likely done. This unit was also missing the clutch cover. This will be the spare parts saw.

On the better saw, which runs after replacing the fuel lines, I noticed the oiler seemed to be applying more oil than necessary.
When I compared it to the other saw, I noticed it appears to be missing a small orifice near the bar area. I have attached two photos, one shows a saw with this orifice, the other without (inside the green circles). I haven't seen this part on an IPL and was wondering if anyone knows the part number?





I noticed that the one saw came with a set of guide bar plates, yet the other saw didn't. Are these really necessary other than providing additional guide/protection for the chain?

Lastly is an old XL902, at least thats whats on the recoil cover (77cc). This thing was so filthy inside and out, yet the piston/rings cylinder look almost new, once cleaned up.
The compression is 150psi and it passed a pressure/vacuum test.
Its missing a number of things, clutch cover, air filter and air filter top cover, the cover for the pump/diaphram side of the carb. as well the bar bolts are missing from the drive case and all thats left are two large holes and, in my view, likely unfixable, unless anyone has any ideas. Since the drive case is likely not repairable I'll likely part it out.





So if anyone has any IPL specific to the XL1, XL76 or XL902 please let me know.
Also if anyone has a used coil, knows anything about the oiling orifices or has any suggestions for the bar holes in the drive case, I would like to hear from you!

I have more photos if anyone is interested

Thanks guys, and by the way, great site!!

[RBW]

Welcome to HOH Woodplayer!!


Nice gaggle of saws you have there!

Im sure someone would have told you about this place sooner, but there is a few too many rulse at some places for things to be clear. But you found us and now you can help spread the word!



I have SEZ a coil that I took out of a parts saw that I could let go, send me a PM if your interested.


Those XL-76's are nice saws, but we dont get many of them down here, I shecked my IPL list and I dont have one for that saw and Im unsure about what models crossover, but I know some do.


PM, BillG, he may know.


AFAIK, all saws should have bar plates, but some lil ones only had one.


I know I missed some Q's, but Im bushed and cant see straight. Ill check this tommorow and see what I missed, maybe someone can fill in the blanks in the mean time.


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[lesorubcheek]

The 76 looks almost identical to an XL123. VI123s have vibration isolation, so their handles are a bit different. I know the 123s have the identical piston used in a SuperXL, so finding a piston should be easy, providing the 76 uses the same. That's a nice 6 shoe clutch on the second pic of a 76. Sorry, but I don't have any specific IPLs for a XL-1, XL-2, 76 or 902.

Dan

[lawnmowertech37]

lesorubcheek said:

The 76 looks almost identical to an XL123. VI123s have vibration isolation, so their handles are a bit different. I know the 123s have the identical piston used in a SuperXL, so finding a piston should be easy, providing the 76 uses the same. That's a nice 6 shoe clutch on the second pic of a 76. Sorry, but I don't have any specific IPLs for a XL-1, XL-2, 76 or 902.

Dan

aint you glad im here on this site i happen to have them ipls all of them that book is not 12 inches thick for nothing you know

calvin

[woodplayer]

RBW, I attached a portion of the IPL for the super EZ and since the points on my saw appear to be the same as shown on the left side diagram. I assume it is the item #60 coil/core (68716) which I need for the XL1. The distance between the mounting holes is around 2"
LMT37 would you be able to confirm the same coil used by the super EZ is used on the XL1?



I had originally tried the solid state ignition module (blue module) from one of the XL76's, on the XL1, since the mounting holes matched, but the spark was weak and the saw wouldn't fire up, likely because the flywheels are different between the two saws. (different ignition timing, flywheel rotation speed, magnet size ?).

Lesorubcheek, is the larger six shoe clutch setup more desirable than the smaller three shoe clutch and why??

Any thoughts on the little silver oiler orifice that is missing would be appreciated.

thanks guys

[lesorubcheek]

That 6 shoe clutch looks like one from a 925. I've never seen one on a smaller XL before (not meaning they were never used, just not that I've ever seen). The 6 shoe clutch on 925s are very sturdy. I wonder if this one may have been fitted with something other than stock. Notice in the photo it isn't screwed in all the way. It may have been taken from a larger saw.

As for the oiler orfice, I've looked at a couple XL-1xx IPLs and none show this as a seperate part. I doubt it'll hurt if missing. You may be able to improvize a replacement with a section of tubing.

Dan

[woodburner44]

I am going to guess that the saw w/o the oiler orifice will pump more oil, perhaps too much oil. Whatever you use will probably have to be installed w/J-B Weld to keep it in place.