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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Mar 1, 2008 16:38:11 GMT -5
Here's irony: this is a fourm detacated to the homelite brand of chainsaws, Yet would anyone in there right mind recomend a new 'Homelite' to dwmcg2000? Sad.
Also, do we want to open the other brand debate? Can we have that discussion without it turning into a brand x or brand y bash session?
Lets get some input from other members.
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Mar 1, 2008 16:40:09 GMT -5
Maybe an Echo cs440?
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Post by dwmcg2000 on Mar 1, 2008 16:52:48 GMT -5
OK I messed with the XL for awhile and got it running. If I can find a muffler for it I can get by. Definitly not without one. That thing is loud. Any ideas for a muffler I looked on e-bay.
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Mar 1, 2008 19:46:17 GMT -5
I found a bunch on ebay priced between 14 and 20 dollars, I searched SLX and Xl12 mufflers.
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Post by dwmcg2000 on Mar 1, 2008 20:44:06 GMT -5
Okay. I don't do e-bay well. If you will bear with me one more question. I can do anything you want with an S&P or any other diesel. Chainsaws are not my specialty. Is it practical to overhaul this engine to bring the compression back so it has original power? Thanks
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Mar 1, 2008 21:08:58 GMT -5
Ask away!
Realisticly, if the compression is that low, it's probably not worth it to you to overhaul the
saw. Thats not to say the saw is
not worth it, but you don't enjoy working on small engines. It sounds like it's more a running parts saw. Even if you could restore compression with just a piston ring, it sounds like a saw
that you would constantly be tinkering with. I feel you might just be better off with a new
saw.
What saw dealers(brand) are close to you?
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Post by dwmcg2000 on Mar 1, 2008 21:13:53 GMT -5
About the only servicing dealer in town is Stihl
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Mar 1, 2008 21:26:21 GMT -5
I would say thats a stroke of luck.
Enough for tonight, I'm going to watch the 'Patriot' and crack a couple of beers. Jim
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Post by RBW on Mar 1, 2008 21:45:52 GMT -5
If you could get a compression check done on that saw it would help determine if comp is the issue or a carb or timing problem.
If its an Xl-12 and not an SXL-12 I have a piston and rings right next to me for that saw.
Most people just rough up the cylinder with a ball hone, add in a new piston and or rings and they run like new again.
How does the cyl look through the exhaust? if its not scored up new parts would bring back the compression if this is indeed the problem.
Those chrome liners are tough, you have to badly score them or chip them for them to be useless.
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Post by dwmcg2000 on Mar 3, 2008 11:53:32 GMT -5
OK. Maybe I have been expecting to much out of the XL12. What should the compression be? Also it has been some time since I checked it so I will run that again anyway. It is an XL12 not a sxl. Most of the pictures I have seen they are blue. This one is red with the XL12 insignia on the round part of the housing. I bought it new in about 1978 or so.
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Post by woodburner44 on Mar 3, 2008 19:07:50 GMT -5
Back to the Firewood Chainsaw question... Why buy NEW when a good used 360 AO with an 18 or 20 inch bar can't be beat for a firewood saw. No where near $400. And no plastic to break. Been using them for years and could not be happier with the performance and reliability. All the parts I have needed are available on the net.
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Mar 4, 2008 16:12:46 GMT -5
I found a couple 360s on ebay
The problem that I see Is the probability of something breaking on a 20-30 year old saw may be greater than with a new decent saw. If Dwmcg goes the used route, geting the same XL series saw would seem to make the most sense, then he has a parts source. Plus, then you eliminate the intake boot problems.
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Post by woodburner44 on Mar 4, 2008 19:36:37 GMT -5
Quality is quality...regardless of the age.
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Post by RBW on Mar 4, 2008 22:20:24 GMT -5
They are a rather small displacement saw, not much bigger than an SEZ in displacement, but heavier and more akward. Plus I hate trying to put oil in them. You would want to see atleast 120 psi cold after pulling the rope enough times that the needle stops climbing. You also need the type of tester that has a shrader valve in the threaded end where it screws into the cylinder. This type retains morreof the compredded air in the tool for better readings. .
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Post by woodburner44 on Mar 5, 2008 0:27:42 GMT -5
About 57cc. More power would be a plus, but I think the vibration isolation and weight of the saw make for smooth cutting. Some of the saws with hard-mounted bars tire me out fast. A well sharpened chain and a well tuned engine are a must. I like an 18" bar for limbing and small stuff. And I have saws with 20 and 24" bars for felling and bucking the bigger stuff. My wife has a new Husky 142 that cuts small stuff great. A new saw of the size I need would cost three times what I have in my 360's. Just a preference. :-)
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Post by woodburner44 on Mar 5, 2008 0:32:33 GMT -5
LOL ... I ended that last post by making a smiley w/the colon, dash and parenthesis keys... and look at what came up!
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Mar 5, 2008 5:14:43 GMT -5
Quality is quality...regardless of the age. I agree, the older saws are quality made items. But I still think D2000 would be better off with a new saw. Although, I can't recomend a specific saw to him. He will be cutting 2 cords/year, so he does not need a pro saw, and with up to 400 dollars to spend, I think he can find a durable, quality saw. Yes, it will have plastic parts, yes it will break at some point, they all do. New or used, I would hate to have D2000 regreat his purchase.
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Post by RBW on Mar 5, 2008 12:12:53 GMT -5
Wood, I was refering to the XL-12.
The 360 is a much nicer saw, I just cant find one in decent condition when I have the coin for one.
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Post by lesorubcheek on Mar 5, 2008 22:34:13 GMT -5
I agree.... I luv 350/360s! My Dad's 350 started my Homelite addiction. These are great saws. I think if ya stock up on seals, bearings, a few rings, maybe a piston or 2, some extra vibe buffers, and a few intake boots, you'll have a saw that will outlive just about any of us here today. I'd feel better about one of these than a newer plaaaaaaastic saw any day. Newer doesn't always mean better!
Dan
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Post by dwmcg2000 on Mar 8, 2008 12:09:45 GMT -5
Well I finally learned an old lesson again. It doesn't matter if it is 45cc or 855 cu in it does the same thing. I found an adapter for my compression gauge and the XL12 has 155 lb compression. So I guess a good tune-up, new chain and a muffler will put it back to work. I have found mufflers from $16.00 to $38.00. Any suggestions. I guess like anything else you get what you pay for. Chainsawwhisperer you were right about the timberman oil problem. I pulled it down this morning and the plastic gear is stripped.
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