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Post by oologahan on Dec 17, 2019 15:23:06 GMT -5
I took my 1966 XL Auto to a media blasting shop with specific instruction for them to cover the ID plate instead the covered the vinyl starting instruction decal under the air filter cover and blasted the ID plate clean. The saw is worthless to me without the correct ID plate. I'll be looking for another starter cover for a early XL or a complete saw. I swear I will never trust another person to do another thing. I'd rather do without than deal with uneducated slobbering morons
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Post by edju1958 on Dec 17, 2019 18:37:19 GMT -5
Wow,that's hard to take! Let's hope you're successful in finding another starter. Ed
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Post by ronaldt on Dec 17, 2019 19:22:14 GMT -5
That's too bad especially when you told them to mask it. When you find another starter housing with the tag, I would recommend removing the id tag before paint removal. The little rivets can be carefully hammered out from the backside. Most of the time they can be reused.
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Post by ettrick on Dec 17, 2019 19:31:40 GMT -5
Is that id plate one that is indented with numbers so you can still make them out, or all a flat surface? Dan
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Post by oologahan on Dec 17, 2019 19:37:34 GMT -5
Wow,that's hard to take! Let's hope you're successful in finding another starter. Ed
Looks like I may have to buy a entire parts saw, exterior parts for those early XL Auto very rarely show up
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Post by oologahan on Dec 17, 2019 19:41:49 GMT -5
Is that id plate one that is indented with numbers so you can still make them out, or all a flat surface? Dan They are indented, but the media blasted the entire tag almost smooth, I can barely make out the stamped serial number, but the model number and place of manufacture are obliterated. Yo me a saw with no ID tag is only worthwhile as a parts saws. Can you imagine someone blasting the metal ID tag of a Yenko Camaro or a Shelby Cobra, to me this is no different?
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Post by oologahan on Dec 17, 2019 19:44:25 GMT -5
That's too bad especially when you told them to mask it. When you find another starter housing with the tag, I would recommend removing the id tag before paint removal. The little rivets can be carefully hammered out from the backside. Most of the time they can be reused. I have several others like it, I was think of seeing if I could take a picture of another tag and recreate a vinyl decal I could put over it. I found a junk parts saw for 100.00 which is more than I paid for this one that was in much better shape, but it is a Terry saw and mine is not a Terry saw.
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Post by ronaldt on Dec 17, 2019 19:50:16 GMT -5
I'm guessing a Terry XL Automatic isn't a very common saw. At least in the USA. I know money doesn't grow on trees but that might not be a bad buy if it's complete?
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Post by ettrick on Dec 17, 2019 19:54:08 GMT -5
I get it. Some people do not get our passion for saws or other old things, but if we ruined something of their's they would be quite upset, as you are. Dan
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Post by oologahan on Dec 17, 2019 21:03:51 GMT -5
I'm guessing a Terry XL Automatic isn't a very common saw. At least in the USA. I know money doesn't grow on trees but that might not be a bad buy if it's complete? Its more common than you think, The Terry made the tri-color XL Automatic for around twelve years, whereas the US built XL Automatic was made for around two years.
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Post by ronaldt on Dec 17, 2019 21:04:58 GMT -5
I'm guessing a Terry XL Automatic isn't a very common saw. At least in the USA. I know money doesn't grow on trees but that might not be a bad buy if it's complete? Its more common than you think, The Terry made the tri-color XL Automatic for around twelve years, whereas the US built XL Automatic was made for around two years. And I continue to keep learning!
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Post by oologahan on Dec 17, 2019 21:08:01 GMT -5
I get it. Some people do not get our passion for saws or other old things, but if we ruined something of their's they would be quite upset, as you are. Dan This blasting shop caters to automotive enthusiasts, if anyone should know the importance of an ID plate its should be them. I see this all the time and not just from the younger generation. People just plain don't give a rats behind about doing a good job or even thinking about their job these days. I feel for those of you living near a nuclear power plant; your days are numbered, Homer Simpson really is controlling the plant these days.
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Post by blythkd on Dec 17, 2019 23:27:36 GMT -5
I agree, it seems that people that care, namely artisans, are becoming fewer and farther between these days. I fear for the future but I suppose every generation has had the same fear.
I hope I'm not hijacking the thread but this brought up a related question for me.
I was just looking at small blasters at Harbor Freight this evening and wondered if anyone has any experience with them. There was a plastic benchtop model for less than $100 and a steel floor model for about $150. Both looked pretty decent with the exception of the gloves which probably wouldn't last long. I would plan on replacing them with better ones soon.
I'm not a big Harbor Freight fan but I see them stepping up their game and I'll give them some credit. I just ponied up a $100 for their Icon 1/2" drive 250# torque wrench that I'll need for an engine job soon I hope. The Craftsman wrench I've used for over 30 years only goes to 150# so it was finally time for an upgrade.
But back to the blast cabinets, I thought they actually looked pretty decent for the money. Any feedback is appreciated.
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Post by oologahan on Dec 18, 2019 0:02:27 GMT -5
I agree, it seems that people that care, namely artisans, are becoming fewer and farther between these days. I fear for the future but I suppose every generation has had the same fear. I hope I'm not hijacking the thread but this brought up a related question for me. I was just looking at small blasters at Harbor Freight this evening and wondered if anyone has any experience with them. There was a plastic benchtop model for less than $100 and a steel floor model for about $150. Both looked pretty decent with the exception of the gloves which probably wouldn't last long. I would plan on replacing them with better ones soon. I'm not a big Harbor Freight fan but I see them stepping up their game and I'll give them some credit. I just ponied up a $100 for their Icon 1/2" drive 250# torque wrench that I'll need for an engine job soon I hope. The Craftsman wrench I've used for over 30 years only goes to 150# so it was finally time for an upgrade. But back to the blast cabinets, I thought they actually looked pretty decent for the money. Any feedback is appreciated. My education is in social psychology and cultural anthropology. Societies are always in a state of change or flux, but things are different now due to one factor alone. The lazy uneducated and unsuccessful people have just as much opportunity to procreate due to governments taking money from the smarter successful working people and giving it to the lazy uneducated and unsuccessful people. Eventually the dumber lazier unsuccessful people will outnumber the smarter hard working people. The only thing that will save our society is for the government to collapse. I found a buddy that has a harbor freight blast cabinet and he says it works well. The problem is that you need between 6-10 CFM to run a most blaster cabinets. If your using a softer media other than sand, which is advisable, the gloves should last.
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Post by blythkd on Dec 18, 2019 8:04:23 GMT -5
I'm certainly not going to say I disagree with your assessment of what's going on in our society. I have nothing against helping out the underprivileged but when you see it become a way of life for generation after generation, it's a little discouraging.
Thanks for your input on the HF blast cabinets. The air volume doesn't concern me a lot. I have a blast pot that I use outside occasionally. I have a 2 cylinder compressor on a 60 gallon tank so I have some volume to work a while. I also started a project for even more air reserve. I laid 60 ft of 4" pvc pipe up on the top girt of my shop. When I get that hooked up it should add about another 40 gallons of capacity. I've also hooked in an additional 2 cylinder portable compressor for more capacity on big blast jobs in the past.
My comment on the gloves stemmed from the condition of the display models at the HF store. Believe it or not, they were already falling apart. They were pretty flimsy compared to the ones I've used before. But the rest of the construction seemed fine.
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Post by onlyhomelites on Dec 18, 2019 15:00:57 GMT -5
I use the floor stand Harbor Freight model and have been happy. I upgraded the light to a LED fixture and I use the plastic film covers on the glass religiously...without a cover, the glass doesn't last anytime at all.
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Post by ettrick on Dec 18, 2019 15:39:45 GMT -5
Am i to understand it is ok to use plastic(pvc) pipe for high pressure air? Dan
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Post by ronaldt on Dec 18, 2019 15:53:09 GMT -5
Am i to understand it is ok to use plastic(pvc) pipe for high pressure air? Dan I've seen it done a lot times but..... We went to a class years ago about plumbing an air system and they strongly recommended not to use PVC pipe. Galvanized pipe was what they stressed to use for 2 reasons, safety and cooling of the compressed air.
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Post by blythkd on Dec 18, 2019 17:57:45 GMT -5
Am i to understand it is ok to use plastic(pvc) pipe for high pressure air? Dan OK? Guess so in my shop at home. There's nothing to keep me from doing it. It's 220psi rated and it probably won't see above about 130 so that seems like plenty of margin for me. But for safety's sake that's why I put it up on the top girt of my shop. That's 12 feet off the floor so it doesn't worry me much up there if it should have a blow out.
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Post by oologahan on Dec 18, 2019 18:16:09 GMT -5
I've seen many guys buy a dead air compressor with a 60 or 80 gallon tank and use it in tandem with their tank, it allows a lot more time on the blaster nozzle
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