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Post by jasonrkba on Sept 6, 2019 10:31:52 GMT -5
Just seen where you watched the video. It would have been very difficult without it for me.
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Post by edju1958 on Sept 10, 2019 16:03:54 GMT -5
I stopped by my local saw shop today & picked up a "parts" 330,it was the only 330 he had.I got it home & put some fuel down the carb & it fired & it exploded the clutch.I pulled the saw apart to find out the line configuration under the carb plate.Now I know how it goes I can pull the other 330 apart again & add the impulse line that's missing & reroute the oil line to where it's supposed to go on the carb plate.I picked up the saw for $15,the info alone was priceless.Plus I got a good saw out of the deal too.From what I could figure out the oiler wasn't working on it.I'll need a new clutch & drum & I'll replace the boot as lopng as it's apart.It has a good Walbro carb & the expensive air filter too. Ed
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Post by kysawman on Sept 11, 2019 17:05:38 GMT -5
I stopped by my local saw shop today & picked up a "parts" 330,it was the only 330 he had.I got it home & put some fuel down the carb & it fired & it exploded the clutch.I pulled the saw apart to find out the line configuration under the carb plate.Now I know how it goes I can pull the other 330 apart again & add the impulse line that's missing & reroute the oil line to where it's supposed to go on the carb plate.I picked up the saw for $15,the info alone was priceless.Plus I got a good saw out of the deal too.From what I could figure out the oiler wasn't working on it.I'll need a new clutch & drum & I'll replace the boot as lopng as it's apart.It has a good Walbro carb & the expensive air filter too. Ed
Ed I found a 330 oil pump carb and recoil in my parts pile I can send them out if you need them.
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Post by edju1958 on Sept 11, 2019 17:34:39 GMT -5
Excellent Jasper! Is the carb a Walbro or a Zama? Ed
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Post by kysawman on Sept 11, 2019 18:33:20 GMT -5
It is a Zama
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Post by edju1958 on Sept 13, 2019 13:37:54 GMT -5
I was going over the parts 330 that I picked up earlier in the week & I found bar oil all over the air filter & that compartment.I thought the oil pump was bad,but upon a closer look I'm not so sure the pump is bad.It looks like it was leaking right where the oil line comes out of the oil tank.My question is this:Is there a grommet in the oil tank where the line goes in? Ed
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Post by undee70ss on Sept 13, 2019 14:16:03 GMT -5
I was going over the parts 330 that I picked up earlier in the week & I found bar oil all over the air filter & that compartment.I thought the oil pump was bad,but upon a closer look I'm not so sure the pump is bad.It looks like it was leaking right where the oil line comes out of the oil tank.My question is this:Is there a grommet in the oil tank where the line goes in? Ed I don’t think so, but they do have a specific line ( special made) oil pick up line that is only for 330’s and is somewhat hard to find a replacement.
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Post by edju1958 on Sept 13, 2019 14:51:38 GMT -5
I think Leon has an aftermarket line for fuel & oil.Thanks! Ed
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Post by edju1958 on Sept 17, 2019 19:08:08 GMT -5
I tore the parts saw down last week & while fiddling with the oil line I think the oil line was leaking rather than the pump being bad.I've got a new replacement line coming from Leon.I managed to find a complete clutch assembly with the drum,washers,race,bearing,& nut on Ebay for $27.I couldn't see buying a new clutch & drum for $75 on a $15 saw.The boot was actually good,but for $10 for a new one I didn't want to take any chances.I got the new boot & clutch assembly yesterday & they're on the saw now.Thanks to kysawman for a recoil from his parts collection I'll have the saw in running order soon. Ed
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Post by edju1958 on Sept 24, 2019 17:23:33 GMT -5
I finally got some time to work on the "parts" 330 today.I installed the newer clutch that I got on Ebay last week.Today I put the new oil line that I got from Leon (thanks Leon!).I put the upper & lower "shels on & put the oil pump back in.Before putting the oil pump back in though I noticed that the supply barb had some crap in it.I was thinkiong of how to get that gunk out of there.I ended up putting it to my mouth & sucking it out.Not very tasty.Lol I also put the muffler back on & the spark plug in too.Aboput the only things left to do are put a new fuel filter in,put the carb & recoil on & the bar & chain & drivecase cover.I hope to get that done tomorrow & then tear down the original 330 & correct the impule line problem & see if I can get them to run.Keep your fingers crossed! Ed
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Post by edju1958 on Sept 25, 2019 20:01:05 GMT -5
OK,here's what's going on with the 2 330's I have.The "parts" 330 is all back together.I had to "borrow" the drive case cover & a bar nut from the other 330 for testing.I didn't realize that the drive case cover that was on the parts 330 was missing the chain tensioner assembly.Anyway,I got it together & it'd only run on a prime,so I'm assuming that a carb rebuild is in order. Now for the original 330 that I got back in July - I pulled it all apart today (again,boy I'm getting good at this,Lol) & I got the impulse & oil lines straightened out & routed properly.I went to put the saw back together & ran into another problem.The engine is sloshing around in the case like crazy.I had the 4 screws that bolt the upper & lower halves together in place & the 2 allen screws that hold the AV mounts on the upper right & lower left bottom in place too.The only allen screw that might be giving me a problem is the one just behind the oil tank cap,it doesn't seem to hold anything in place.I'll be checking this out more tomorrow.I ran out of daylight today working on my porch. Ed
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Post by edju1958 on Sept 26, 2019 17:27:46 GMT -5
Today was somewhat productive.I tried to start the parts saw again before I pulled the carb & the rope pulled through the insert for the recoil handle.After taking it apart & repairing it I pulled on the recoil once or twice & the saw fired up to life.I had to adjust the idle,but that was it.It's a runner!Apparently the carb didn't need a rebuild after all.The only thing is the oil pump isn't working.There's oil in the new line,but nothing out to the pad.I'm thinking there might be a blockage,or the pump is bad.Tomorrow I'll pull the pump off & put some compressed air to the pad & see if it comes out at the carb plate. As for the original 330 - I found out why the engine was sloshing around in the case,the rear AV isolator bushing came out.I had to take the saw apart for the 3rd time to get that back in place.Then I had a heck of a time getting it to line up to put the allen screw into it.I finally got it assembled again,hopefully for the last time.I'm waiting on a new ratchet lever for the recoil.I'll probably take the recoil off the "parts" saw & put it on the original 330 just to see if I can get it to run tomorrow.I'm getting there! Ed
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Post by edju1958 on Sept 27, 2019 18:59:44 GMT -5
The "parts" 330 runs like a champ but it won't oil for anything.I blew air through the entire oiling system,the impulse hole,& the oil pick up & it still won't oil.I put a different pump on it & took 2 pumps apart & blew air through them to clean them out too,still no oil at the pad. The original 330 developed a fuel leak in the tank.I had to tear it apart for the 4th time to find out that the spring pin had fallen out of the lower front AV isolator & I didn't know it,so when I tightened the allen screw it went right into the fuel tank.I put a coat of Seal All on the tank & tomorrow I'll put anther coat on it.Working on these 2 saws is getting old fast. Ed
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Post by undee70ss on Sept 27, 2019 19:05:07 GMT -5
Pretty sure Leon has a video on the 330 Oiler repair.
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Post by edju1958 on Sept 27, 2019 19:47:53 GMT -5
There's nothing to the oil pumps.I had 2 apart today.There's just a spring & a spring & a plunger/diaphragm inside that works on impulse.The problem is finding the plunger/diapragm.There's oner on Ebay for $17,afterr that I'm up the creek without a paddle. Ed Edit:I watched the video & there's nothing very helpful in it.He mentions about priming the pump,but doesn't really show how to do it.
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Post by edju1958 on Sept 28, 2019 17:25:33 GMT -5
The Seal All cured nicely overnight,but to be on the safe side I cut a small piece out of an old inner tube & applied Seal All to both sides & adhered it to the fuel tank.It cures fast! If I have time tomorrow I'll try to get that 330 back together again. Ed
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Post by onlyhomelites on Sept 30, 2019 9:12:09 GMT -5
Did you get the oiler working? Priming the system is pretty easy...prime the outlet to the bar before installing the pump. Then you can hold the pump down and prime some oil down the plunger shaft. The big thing is you don't want oil up under the diaphragm & around the spring. This will collect dust and impede the pump action.
A lot of good diaphragms end up thrown away for this series of saw and the Super 2 series. Unless the material is stiff to the point of cracking, it can usually be softened up in brake oil and made to work well again. I've yet to come across a 330 diaphragm that was the culprit of a no-oil situation.
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Post by edju1958 on Sept 30, 2019 22:27:02 GMT -5
Did you get the oiler working? Priming the system is pretty easy...prime the outlet to the bar before installing the pump. Then you can hold the pump down and prime some oil down the plunger shaft. The big thing is you don't want oil up under the diaphragm & around the spring. This will collect dust and impede the pump action. A lot of good diaphragms end up thrown away for this series of saw and the Super 2 series. Unless the material is stiff to the point of cracking, it can usually be softened up in brake oil and made to work well again. I've yet to come across a 330 diaphragm that was the culprit of a no-oil situation. I'll try priming the pump & see what happens.It looked like the pump was trying to pull oil from the tank,the new line had oil pulled into it & there was oil in the "well",but that's as far as it got.There were a couple of drops at the pad too. Ed
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Post by onlyhomelites on Sept 30, 2019 23:07:32 GMT -5
They can be a real PITA. One trick I like to use to confirm pump operation is to get the saw running on it's side and drop a few drops of oil onto the bar pad. If the pump is working, you'll get bubbling through the oil.
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Post by edju1958 on Oct 1, 2019 18:13:58 GMT -5
I have never seen 2 more uncooperative saws than these 2 330's.I tried priming the "parts" 330 to no avail,so I moved on to the "original" 330 that I bought back in July.I got that saw put back together agai n for about the 5th tiome.The parch on the fuel tank worked well.The saw ran like crap,probably because it has a Zama carb on it.That saw wouldn't oil; either even after priming the pump.I noticed a big puddle of bar oil underneath & to the rear of the saw.This leads me to believe that there's an oil leak in the line that goes from the pump under the carb plate.If I could just get one of these saws to run & oil properly I'd be happy.It's almost time to take them out back & use them for target practice. I go in for back surgery on next Tues.& I don't have time to be messing with saws that are not prodfuctive. Ed
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