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Post by edju1958 on Jul 16, 2019 19:18:58 GMT -5
Yep,I finally got one.The really weird way that it happened was that I was looking for a part for one of my Macs & I stumbled across a thread over on AS by a guy wanting to sell his 330.There was another guy ahead of me who had inquired about the saw,but apparently wasn't that ionterested,so I ended up with the saw.It's cosmetically in really nice shape,has an almost new 20 in.chain,& has 150 psi compression with a nice looking P&C.Only drawback - it'll need an intake boot. Ed
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Post by blythkd on Jul 17, 2019 6:02:28 GMT -5
Nice find. A word of advice on a 330, I'd check it for fire before you split it to replace the intake boot. The 330 ignitions were pretty good but they do go bad and you don't want to split it twice.
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 17, 2019 7:49:13 GMT -5
It's supposed to have good spark.I guess I left that out in all the excitement.I also forgot to mention that I picked the saw up for only $30. Ed
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 19, 2019 21:29:58 GMT -5
I got the 330 in the mail today & gave it the once over.I can't believe the condition this saw is in! It has done bery little cutting,but due to age the intake boot is history.I'll need to rebuild the carb as well.The fella that I bought the saw from started working on it & took the carb off & that's as far as he got.Lol Leon,I watched your video of disassembling a 330,but if you have a video of reassembling it that'd be great,& as per your advice I'm replacing the oil discharge hose & the impulse lines.I think someone was in the saw previously because the pulse line is clear,not black.I also need to know if it's OK to use Tygon line for the fuel line? Ed
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Post by riseandrun on Jul 20, 2019 13:20:12 GMT -5
Nice find Ed. I have a 330 but it doesn't have the guard attached to the top cover. If Tygon is yellow in color and clear, you can use it for fuel line. I changed mine years ago when I bought it at an auction ($35) when I changed the carb boot. It's still good,...but my saws are hardly ever used.... Hope you don't have the same battle as me with the oiler...my next post..;-( R&R
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 20, 2019 13:30:11 GMT -5
Thanks Riseandrun.From what I understand the oilers can be on the finicky side.I don't know much about them at this point,but I'd say to check the screen & the oil line as well.You migt even need a new pump as a last resort,if you do let me know & I'll get you in touch with a parts guy who most likely has it.Of course always check with Leon & Joyce first.Try to stay away from Ebay as their prices there are greatly inflated most of the time. Ed
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Post by ettrick on Jul 20, 2019 13:49:34 GMT -5
Are 330's really that rare? Seems like i see them in this area often. I have three and would like only one. Dan
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Post by edju1958 on Jul 20, 2019 16:06:29 GMT -5
Are 330's really that rare? Seems like i see them in this area often. I have three and would like only one. Dan I don't think they're rare,it's just that I've been wanting to get a 330 for about a yr.now & the ones on Ebay werte too pricey or too beat up for me.I don't think the 330's were that common in my area though. Ed
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Post by stillsawing on Jul 21, 2019 21:52:11 GMT -5
Really nice shape, somewhat common. They can be strong running saws, kinda make me think of them as a modern day XL-12. Torque band is at a moderate rpm, they should run for a long time. My first one was given to me by a local dealer that wouldn't work on it because it is a Homelite. The owner left the saw at the repair shop and instructed them to throw it in the dumpster. It being a "basket case", Leon's video came in handy. After getting the saw reassembled, I realized that the saw has had very little use. The problem was the wire between the coil and the on/off switch, burned through the insulation near the muffler. They aren't that bad to reassemble. I too have three of them, use them to cull trash trees. 16" bars with Stihl semi skip chain, 3/8-050. Enjoy your new saw!
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Post by edju1958 on Aug 31, 2019 18:33:05 GMT -5
Here's a 6 week later update.I had to wait for parts to come in,finally got them.I tore the saw down about 2 weeks ago & got busy with other things.Yesterday I reassembled the saw,not really that bad,it went together easier than it came apart.As I mentioned at the beginning of this thread the carb was opff & in a baggie when I got the saw.I rebuilt the carb as I figured it could use it,but it wasn't really in that bad of shape.I went to start it yesterday & it'll only run on a prime.There's something that puzzles me & that's where the oil line to the bar pad is supposed to hook to.It comes up through the carb plate & there's only enough line to reach to the carb.Shouldn't it go to the oil pump?Also,which inlet tube does it connect to on the carb?I tried looking at the IPL,but I'm unable to clearly see where it's supposed to go. Ed
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Post by riseandrun on Aug 31, 2019 19:08:21 GMT -5
I'm not positive on this Ed, and maybe I'll learn why my oiler doesn't work, but the line from the oil tank goes to the pump, and underneath the pump on the right side (handle towards you) there is a little hole that has a hose from there to the side of the case where the oil goes into the bar. When I was messing with my saw, I took a oil can and squirted it into the hole I thought went to the chain and had oil dripping out the bottom of my saw. Thats when I discovered I was in the wrong hole! ;-) Are we talking about the same line? HTH R&R
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Post by edju1958 on Aug 31, 2019 19:46:03 GMT -5
R&R,I found where the oil line that comes from the oil tank hooks onto the little barb on the pump.Now there should be another line going from the pump to the bar pad.I replaced the short 4 in.line that goes to the bar pad& it comes up through the carb plate.I'd need to see another 330 oil line configuration to know how the lines are supposed to be hooked up correctly.The IPL shows NOTHING.I suppose I'll have to buy another 330 just to know the oil line configuration.The previous owner bought the saw & took the carb off to see what was involved with replacing the boot & I guess he got overwhelmed when he saw what was involved.Even if someone could draw a rough sketch of where all the lines go would be great too. Ed
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Post by blythkd on Aug 31, 2019 20:04:20 GMT -5
Ed, cross the 2 lines that come up through the front of the carb adapter plate then hook them to the carb. The pulse line comes up through the hole nearer the bar side of the saw and hooks to the front of the carb (fuel pump cover plate). The fuel line comes up the through hole nearer the flywheel side of the saw and hooks to the inlet nipple on the right side of the carb. The only other line in the carb chamber is the oil line which comes up from the rear of the saw (oil tank) but I think you've got that figured out now.
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Post by blythkd on Aug 31, 2019 20:16:01 GMT -5
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Post by edju1958 on Aug 31, 2019 20:21:44 GMT -5
Ed, cross the 2 lines that come up through the front of the carb adapter plate then hook them to the carb. The pulse line comes up through the hole nearer the bar side of the saw and hooks to the front of the carb (fuel pump cover plate). The fuel line comes up the through hole nearer the flywheel side of the saw and hooks to the inlet nipple on the right side of the carb. The only other line in the carb chamber is the oil line which comes up from the rear of the saw (oil tank) but I think you've got that figured out now. Apparently I'm missing a line.There's a line connected to the underside of the carb plate.I'm assuming that's the impulse line,it'doesn't come up through the front of the plate.Maybe that portion is broken off?I'm totally in the dark here as to where the lines are supposed to be.The other thing is,where does the line going to the bar pad copnnect?There's the oil inlet line that comes from the tank & goes to the inlet barb on the pump,I got that.There should then be a line coming out of the pump to discharge to the bar pad,I don't have that,or even see where it comes out of the pump.I'll see if I can get some pics on here to show you all what I'm talking about. Ed
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Post by blythkd on Aug 31, 2019 22:20:09 GMT -5
From the picture you posted it appears you're done. There's no output oil line to hook to the oiler. The output is ported through the bottom of the oiler through the plate that the oiler fastens to. That's what the gasket under the oiler is for. The output oil line hooks to the bottom side of that plate then runs to the bar pad.
Give here a rip and see what happens.
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Post by edju1958 on Aug 31, 2019 22:30:25 GMT -5
I tried starting it yesterday & it'll only run on a prime.I HATE Zama carbs! I'm going to see if I can get a Walbro carb on it.I know where I can get a 330 parts saw for little of nothing & hope it has a Walbro on it. Ed
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Post by blythkd on Sept 1, 2019 8:31:00 GMT -5
I just re-read your posts after I dragged my sleepy ass out of bed! I saw where you said you ran a line from the bar pad up through the carb plate. If that's in fact what you did and hooked it to the carb, that's the problem. Assuming the clear tygon line is the fuel line, then it's hooked up correctly. If the other line hooked to the carb is going to the bar pad, then you have no engine vacuum (pulse) to the carb, which would cause the saw to fire on prime only and not stay running. The pulse line should hook to the front of the crankcase and come up through the carb plate to hook to the front of the carb. The line from the bar pad should go to a nipple on the bottom of the carb plate directly underneath the oiler.
And I agree with you on Zama, never was a fan. But you can probably get it to run ok. I just always felt like a Zama on a 330 was pretty finicky to adjust. A 330 in general is pretty finicky about carb adjustments but I always thought the Zama was worse.
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Post by edju1958 on Sept 1, 2019 8:52:51 GMT -5
Thanks Brent! You just confirmed my suspicions about the rtouting of the lines.I wish the guy who had the saw previously hadn't touched it at all.What I don't understand though is why the line going top the bar pad is only 4 in.long?I hope the parts saw still has the lines intact so I can trace them to where they should go.It doesn't take much to pop this carb off & take another look under the plate. Ed
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Post by jasonrkba on Sept 6, 2019 10:25:19 GMT -5
If i remember leon has a very good video on YouTube for this one. The engineering and design of the 330 is different than any other I own but they make good firewood saws. The air filters are very expensive. The one you picked up is in fantastic shape Ed.
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