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Post by edju1958 on Nov 24, 2018 21:16:06 GMT -5
I added a running XL-102 to my collection today.I picked it up on Ebay for $46.I contacted the seller & let him know that the saw wasn't going far from it's original destination,we live about an hr.from each other.It wasn't long after I sent him that message when I got a message in return.He wanted to know if he could bring the saw to me personally & have a look at my collection.I told him of course he could.So tomorrow I'll have the company of my newest addition to my saw family & possibly a new friend & chainsaw enthusiast.Pics to follow.
Ed
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Post by undee70ss on Nov 24, 2018 21:32:13 GMT -5
Score!!!
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Post by edju1958 on Nov 24, 2018 21:51:25 GMT -5
I just found out the saw's compression is low,he says he thinks it's around 109.I've got two 101's that I know have better compression than that.Both of the 101's have bad oil tank seals. Ed
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Post by edju1958 on Nov 25, 2018 17:47:28 GMT -5
I got my XL-102 delivered earlier today.I think the compression reading of 109 # is incorrect.We put some fuel & bar oil in the saw & gave a few pulls & she fired right up.The oiler didn't want to work right away,but then started working after a bit,probably needed to get primed.I took it over to the woodpile & made a cut with it,I was impressed! If the saw only had 109 # compression,the saw wouldn't have even started,let alone cut like it was on steroids. The carb needs an adjustment because it's idling way too fast,the chain is spinning around on the bar like it's got someone's finger on the throttle.I also took the plug out to do a compression test & I couldn't get my compression tester in the plug hole.It acted like the plug hole was stripped,but the plug went right back in.It's possible that the threads got crossed.Is there any way to straighten out the threads with a chase? I went to two auto parts storeds a few months ago looking for a plug chase & they looked at me like I came from another planet.I'll get some pics on here tomorrow. Ed
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Post by ettrick on Nov 25, 2018 17:56:37 GMT -5
The xl-102 must be quite similar to a xl-101. Any ideas as to what the differences are. Dan
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Post by edju1958 on Nov 25, 2018 18:14:11 GMT -5
The xl-102 must be quite similar to a xl-101. Any ideas as to what the differences are. Dan According to Mike Acres'site the XL-102 was made a yr.prior to the XL-101(?).The 101 was 54 cc & the 102,103,104 were 57 cc.The 102 came as an automatic or manual oiler,the 101 was manual oiler only.The 103 was the first electronic ignition (103E).I hope I got this all right from a quick glance at Acres'site.Lol Ed
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Post by sweepleader on Nov 25, 2018 18:32:21 GMT -5
"...the plug went right back in.It's possible that the threads got crossed.Is there any way to straighten out the threads with a chase? ..."
I have one that I got from a tool gypsy many years ago. It has 14mm on one end and 18mm on the other with a pilot to guide it into the hole. A plug with known good threads can be used by grinding or filing notches across the threads for chip clearance. I have done that too. However, if the plug goes in correctly and easily, I would be nervous about chasing the threads with any tool that could cut out good threads. I would try another plug of the same number and take a very close look at the threads of the compression tester. There is only one shot at chasing the threads in those alloy castings and if the plug fits it is very hard to recommend "fixing" the threads in the cylinder. Sometimes the cylinder will not have clearance for some feature of the compression tester adapter, blocking its entry. Do be careful, Heli-coils and other inserts are available but they can be a bear to install.
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Post by undee70ss on Nov 25, 2018 18:40:27 GMT -5
They made 2 different XL-102's, the XL-102 and the XL-102 Automatic. The XL-102 had manual oiling only and a compression release, the XL-102 Automatic had auto and manual oiling but no compression release.
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Post by edju1958 on Nov 27, 2018 10:48:50 GMT -5
The XL-102 that I just got is an automatic w/manual oiler.Here are some pics of the saw. Ed
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Post by edju1958 on Nov 27, 2018 15:27:53 GMT -5
It looks like I'll need to replace the crank seals on this old girl.I went to adjust the carb on it today to slow down the idle (it was running way to fast) & I couldn't get it tuned at all.I did the tip test & when I tipped the saw forward it wanted to cut right out.Side to side was somewhat OK.It might need a carb rebuild as well.Now I've never done crank seal replacement before,so that's probably going to be a new thread. Ed
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Post by edju1958 on May 5, 2019 21:16:31 GMT -5
Well here I am almost 6 mo.later & I feel like a complete idiot.I was in the process of getting the 102 ready to install new crank seals tomorrow.I had the recoil & flywheel off & had just removed the clutch,race & bearing.I had to take the AF cover off for some reason & found the culprit.I detected a crack in the fuel line & when I just touched it,it crumbled apart.I should've checked the fuel line right from the beginning. I figured that I'd put a new fuel line in it,but wouldn't you know that the size I needed I didn't have.I went to 2 auto parts stores today & they had virtually nothing.I put the one grommet back in the air box,it was not an easy task.The other grommet was a replacement grommet that I bought from Leon quite some time ago & it did not want to go into the tank hole.I must've messed with it for well over an hr.I finally had to give up due to too much pain in my knuckles.I looked to see if there was a special line that Homelite made for the 100 series saws & found that it takes part # 63544,but at $18 I'll pass.Is there an aftermarket fuel line available? Ed
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Post by undee70ss on May 6, 2019 1:32:03 GMT -5
I looked to see if there was a special line that Homelite made for the 100 series saws & found that it takes part # 63544,but at $18 I'll pass.Is there an aftermarket fuel line available?
Ed
Part# 63544 was never superseded to another number, and Homelite was still selling it in 2000. There is probably a aftermarket line that will work, but I wouldn't know the size offhand.
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Post by edju1958 on May 6, 2019 7:42:13 GMT -5
I think Homelite gave it part # UP0661(?)
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Post by undee70ss on May 6, 2019 10:43:58 GMT -5
I think Homelite gave it part # UP0661(?) Correct, but that’s when Homelite changed all their remaining part numbers to a UP number. This happened just before they went belly up.
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Post by edju1958 on May 6, 2019 10:53:31 GMT -5
OK,thanks Greg,understood. Ed
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Post by edju1958 on May 17, 2019 18:53:03 GMT -5
Thanks to Chainsawlady once again for coming through with hard to find parts at a reasonable price! I told her I needed a grommet to fit the XL-102 tank & she sent me part & 64862.It fits in the tank beautifully & I was able to use a Tygon line instead of that overpriced line on Ebay.I hope to finish this saw over the weekend if I don't get sidetracked with other work. Ed
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Post by edju1958 on Jun 2, 2019 18:48:01 GMT -5
It only took a hair over two weeks to get the XL-102 up & running again.I had a propblem with it not wanting to draw fuel,so I decided to pull the carb.I went to take the mounting bolts out & noticed they weren't tight.I tightened them up & withion a few pulls the saw fired up,but once again it's just another saw in need of crank seals. Ed
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Post by ronaldt on Jun 2, 2019 20:47:07 GMT -5
Sounds like you're going to have to change your forum name to cranksealmaster...
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Post by ronaldt on Jun 2, 2019 20:54:44 GMT -5
I remember talking to a guy that restores old snowmobiles and he stressed to always replace the crank seals. That guy was probably very wise?
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Post by edju1958 on Jun 2, 2019 21:13:40 GMT -5
Most of the saws I'm working on are late 60's - early 70's vintage,so I don't think it's unreasonable for the seals to go bad after 50 yrs. Ed
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