kram69
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Funny how looking forparts for Dad's ol' Super2 turned into an Obsession...
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Post by kram69 on Jul 12, 2018 10:28:20 GMT -5
Hey guys, skulked around here for a bit and now have a reason to get involved. I bought a 35 not too long ago with a screwed up rewind. Got that fixed and swapped a 20 in bar an chain from a derelict 35 on the shelf. Now to ME ( which may not mean much) this thing pumps out a crazy amount of bar oil. I mean check the fuel and fill the oil kind of thing. Even idling it leaves a puddle under it. Now my Super 2, and the XL's don't seem to do this. Is this because I'm used to diaphragm pumps and not piston style or is something up? And apparently this is the newer non-adjustable pump. This normal?
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Post by lesorubcheek on Jul 12, 2018 18:01:30 GMT -5
Hello kram69 and welcome,
I haven't ran a 35 much, but have used 350s and 360s a good bit and they're very similar saws. Pretty sure the oilers are the same parts, just the early ones are adjustable. I honestly can't say I've ever noticed a 360 with a fixed oiler ever putting out so much that it seemed excessive. They do oil better on average than a Super 2 or little XL, but not so much that they empty out before the fuel. You may want to make sure the bar plates are sealing good at the mounting point around the bar studs and that the bar oiler slot is aligning as it should. If you have a gap where the bar seats to the plates, you could get a puddle, but I'm not sure that would explain it using more oil than normal. There's still a good size opening where the oil is coming up into the bar that I don't think there's enough restriction to reduce the flow significantly.
Dan
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Post by sweepleader on Jul 12, 2018 19:54:37 GMT -5
Welcome to the House of Homelite. I don't know anything about your saw but it sounds like Dan does, his sounds like good advise for many saws. Keep asking if you still have questions.
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kram69
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Funny how looking forparts for Dad's ol' Super2 turned into an Obsession...
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Post by kram69 on Jul 15, 2018 5:36:49 GMT -5
Well I do have new bar plates coming as the ones on it are not the best. And I'll recheck all the surfaces too. I just might not be used to it. Going to change up to a thicker pull cord tho, broke for the 4th time yesterday.
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Post by undee70ss on Jul 15, 2018 12:55:28 GMT -5
Well I do have new bar plates coming as the ones on it are not the best. And I'll recheck all the surfaces too. I just might not be used to it. Going to change up to a thicker pull cord tho, broke for the 4th time yesterday. Should take 38 inches of no.4 starter rope. Check the pulley and other parts if been using wrong size rope. |
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on Jul 17, 2018 19:18:08 GMT -5
Just had a look at the Homelite Automatic Oil Pump Output Specifications;
Super 2 : 10 cc per minute at WOT
360 : 11 cc per minute at 7000 rpm....(35 poss. similar)
SXL-925 : 9.1 cc per minute at 7000 rpm
SXL/AO : 3.9 cc per minute at 7000 rpm....( in comparison seems low ?)
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Post by kysawman on Jul 17, 2018 19:23:13 GMT -5
Super XL had the back up manual pump maybe ? Does seem to be low.
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Post by sweepleader on Jul 17, 2018 20:06:32 GMT -5
My XL-500 does not have manual oiling and I never burned a bar. My guess is it was never intended for milling or other intensive cutting. Other saws may well have been planned for heavier use.
Are you sure those numbers are correct? Where did you find them?
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on Jul 17, 2018 22:05:33 GMT -5
The numbers are correct.They can be found in the Homelite Repair Manuals....Homelite oil pump specs.
I'll post a comment there to bring that thread up.
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kram69
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Post by kram69 on Aug 7, 2018 13:18:47 GMT -5
Well new guide plates and a good scrubbing of the surfaces around the oiler port took care of the "idle" puddle. Sure keeps the bar nice and lubed.  Next time the rope breaks I'll fix that. The pulley's new so must be just el cheapo rope. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 14:25:36 GMT -5
Please post the UT/serial number of your 35, so we can see its vintage/manufacturer.
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kram69
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Post by kram69 on Aug 7, 2018 15:19:56 GMT -5
Sure, the runner is UT50222A ser#TH00684 and the parts power head is UT10670 ser#HH3230012
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 17:05:30 GMT -5
Sure, the runner is UT50222A ser#TH00684 and the parts power head is UT10670 ser#HH3230012 Looks like the runner could be a Terry Industries saw built for Homelite in Canada and the parts saw might be built in the US, sure that first H isn't a 4? |
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kram69
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Funny how looking forparts for Dad's ol' Super2 turned into an Obsession...
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Post by kram69 on Aug 7, 2018 17:43:21 GMT -5
Yep the runner is from Pointe Claire Q beck and the other is Charlotte N Carolina. Rechecked the tag and it is a double H. Misprint perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 7:38:48 GMT -5
Yep the runner is from Pointe Claire Q beck and the other is Charlotte N Carolina. Rechecked the tag and it is a double H. Misprint perhaps? I don't know, most of those later 9 digit serial numbers started with a number that indicated the assembly line and used a letter in the second position for the year of manufacturer, H being 1986. I haven't seen a serial number other than a Terry saw with two letters. |
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kram69
Collector wannabe
Funny how looking forparts for Dad's ol' Super2 turned into an Obsession...
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Post by kram69 on Aug 8, 2018 8:59:06 GMT -5
Don't know what to tell ya, you guys know more about them than I do I'll guarantee that...
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Post by undee70ss on Aug 8, 2018 10:06:49 GMT -5
I don't know, most of those later 9 digit serial numbers started with a number that indicated the assembly line and used a letter in the second position for the year of manufacturer, H being 1986. I haven't seen a serial number other than a Terry saw with two letters. Use of a letter in the first position on 9 digit serial numbers was more common in later years. I have quite a few saws like that. First H, built on production line H Second H, built in 1986 323, built on 323 day of the year 0012, 12 saw built that day. |
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on Aug 8, 2018 14:21:16 GMT -5
TSB : 181-026 Dated : 10/81 ..states ;
"The assembly line the unit was built on can also be represented by a letter.
Most units built at Arrowood Plant use a letter in this position."
An example is my '82 Super XL-925 ... UT:10415C .. SN: HD2220299
CORRECTION: My '93 Super XL-925 ...UT: 10415-C ..SN: HO2220299
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