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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 0:43:00 GMT -5
Is there a site that offers their company part numbers of our homelite saw coils and modules? I know Phelon/Repco made the coils for my 2000, but I cant find a part number from the manufacturer to track one down, only the Homelite part number. I think Phelon/Repco was sold to Standard Magneto and I see a few of their coils that look right but without a cross reference I have no way of telling.
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Post by undee70ss on Dec 18, 2017 1:34:48 GMT -5
I don’t know of one, but if you find one please share.
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Post by chainsawlady on Dec 18, 2017 5:14:19 GMT -5
Is there a site that offers their company part numbers of our homelite saw coils and modules? I know Phelon/Repco made the coils for my 2000, but I cant find a part number from the manufacturer to track one down, only the Homelite part number. I think Phelon/Repco was sold to Standard Magneto and I see a few of their coils that look right but without a cross reference I have no way of telling. I called Standard last week. They explained they bought the right from Prestolite in the 90's and have been making the two Homelite modules #94605 and #94111 since that time. I don't know if they are better than the originals or they are the same. I don't know what else they make. chainsawlady
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Post by undee70ss on Dec 18, 2017 5:57:26 GMT -5
. I think Phelon/Repco was sold to Standard Magneto and I see a few of their coils that look right but without a cross reference I have no way of telling. This is what I found about R.E. Phelon. fenix-mfg.com/why-choose-fenix/people.html
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Post by sweepleader on Dec 18, 2017 9:07:32 GMT -5
My experience in industrial suppliers situations has been that the customer (Homelite) would make a contract with the vendor (Phelon) that included the vendor not selling the customers product, no matter who designed it (Phelon most likely), to an end user. That would generally preclude the vendor from having an interchange list, thus our current problem. If a vendor designed a product without a customer requesting it, they normally will sell to a user but not with a customer number. Again our problem. Undee's comment< "I don’t know of one, but if you find one please share." is a good one and all important.
Chainsawlady's suggestion shows a solution is possible in some cases.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 10:29:04 GMT -5
lilredbarn has one that is a aftermarket replacement with one white wire and one black wire, I would have to figure out which way to hook it up as the original one had one double bare wire and a black wire. It also doesn't come with a plug wire
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Post by sweepleader on Dec 18, 2017 11:52:04 GMT -5
The wire that is common to both coils is the ground wire, it would have the least resistance to both. Measure the resistance between each pair of the three wires. Call them A, B, C. A to B will equal a number, say X, B to C will by Y and C to A will be Z, three different resistances. One of those will be the highest, one the lowest. The highest will be both coils in series. The wire that is not connected to the meter to find the highest resistance will be the ground. It may take some careful measuring to separate the highest from just the secondary by itself but it can be done.
Resistances can be added together, A + B = C. A is lowest, B is higher, C is both together. Combination A is the primary, points coil, combination B is the secondary, spark coil, combination C is both in series, the wire not used to measure C is the common ground.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 19:18:39 GMT -5
The wire that is common to both coils is the ground wire, it would have the least resistance to both. Measure the resistance between each pair of the three wires. Call them A, B, C. A to B will equal a number, say X, B to C will by Y and C to A will be Z, three different resistances. One of those will be the highest, one the lowest. The highest will be both coils in series. The wire that is not connected to the meter to find the highest resistance will be the ground. It may take some careful measuring to separate the highest from just the secondary by itself but it can be done. Resistances can be added together, A + B = C. A is lowest, B is higher, C is both together. Combination A is the primary, points coil, combination B is the secondary, spark coil, combination C is both in series, the wire not used to measure C is the common ground. The new coil comes with two wires a white and black, the black is longer than the white wire and apparently they can only hook back up like the original wire. The original ground wire was grounded through a screw near the condenser and was bare wire, this one is slightly larger and insulated, but won't reach to where the black wire hooks to the points condenser post. My next problem is how to remove an install the new module to the iron core. Is it epoxied on? and will I have to epoxy it back on?
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Post by onlyhomelites on Dec 18, 2017 20:42:19 GMT -5
It's a slip/press fit. Most come off with very little motivation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 21:51:58 GMT -5
yea I had the same question about getting the coil off of my C-72 but it was actually pretty easy to slide off.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 0:15:42 GMT -5
yea I had the same question about getting the coil off of my C-72 but it was actually pretty easy to slide off. I've pried on mine and it hasn't budged. I'll take my time and work it out, thanks
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Post by sweepleader on Dec 19, 2017 8:16:55 GMT -5
Look for a bent over lamination of the core securing the coil on the core, or a bent over retainer that is separate from the steel core. www.flickr.com/photos/154604744@N08/shares/t7iv5uThe picture shows a retainer in the middle that is slid inside the core from the flywheel side and secured with a screw at the top.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 11:46:18 GMT -5
Look for a bent over lamination of the core securing the coil on the core, or a bent over retainer that is separate from the steel core. www.flickr.com/photos/154604744@N08/shares/t7iv5uThe picture shows a retainer in the middle that is slid inside the core from the flywheel side and secured with a screw at the top. Yeah all my SEZAO's had that small retainer, but this coil is a three legged coil and I don't see any retainer, usually you pry it back and pull the coil off the core, not on this one that I can see. I'm going to look again at the IPL. Thanks
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Post by onlyhomelites on Dec 19, 2017 15:10:02 GMT -5
No retainer on this one, just a tight fit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 18:20:26 GMT -5
No retainer on this one, just a tight fit. I used a small screwdriver and wedges it behind the coil and core and it loosened right up after a couple twist. I also ordered a new felt washer for under the ignition assembly and a new thrust washer for between the clutch and drum, both old parts had seen better days and were worn out and I won't put something back together until it passes inspection. This 2000 is going to be a great saw, I am stoked at owning it and learning so much about rebuilding a saw. I know the carb was rebuilt recently, it will have a new hub and drum and a complete ignition rebuild.
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Post by tommyhnavix on Apr 15, 2018 13:02:28 GMT -5
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Post by sweepleader on Apr 15, 2018 17:03:13 GMT -5
That's some great stuff there Tommy, I'll bet Greg or Leon could save that to Leon's site if it is OK with you. It would have a watermark on it with your name.
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Post by tommyhnavix on Apr 15, 2018 18:11:03 GMT -5
No problem. I have the original copies in my possession. They can share it if they like. Glad to share info I have collected!
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Post by onlyhomelites on Apr 16, 2018 7:06:08 GMT -5
I've bookmarked this thread to remind me to come back to it! As soon as I can, I'll do exactly what Dan indicated: watermark it with your screen name and post it to the website. Then I'll put up a link here. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by Mr_Huns on Jun 13, 2021 10:12:56 GMT -5
Old thread,
I just wanted to say thank you!!
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