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Post by undee70ss on Jun 6, 2016 3:03:38 GMT -5
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Post by Supercharged86 on Jun 8, 2016 19:53:05 GMT -5
Wow! Nice find Greg. Thanks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 23:06:47 GMT -5
I paid 44.95 for a new OEM Wico module on eBay, none were over 59.00
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Post by undee70ss on Jul 3, 2017 1:44:34 GMT -5
The only issues with the OEM ones are that they had a high failure rate. It was bad enough that they stopped using Wico ignitions all together on the SXL. Supposedly the new ones corrected the issues the OEM ones had.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 8:43:37 GMT -5
The only issues with the OEM ones are that they had a high failure rate. It was bad enough that they stopped using Wico ignitions all together on the SXL. Supposedly the new ones corrected the issues the OEM ones had. I know which one to buy if this one fails, thanks for the info. |
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Post by Clasec on Jul 5, 2017 19:35:16 GMT -5
I've read somewhere you can bake the faulty coil in a toaster oven at high temp. for like 12 hours and it fixes most of them. I'm sure others know the specifics better than me.
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Post by onlyhomelites on Jul 6, 2017 7:09:00 GMT -5
I've read somewhere you can bake the faulty coil in a toaster oven at high temp. for like 12 hours and it fixes most of them. I'm sure others know the specifics better than me. True story only if you bake a high temp you'll have no coil left! 200 degrees is about right. Out of the 8 or 9 that I've done this to, only 1 failed to come back to life. |
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on Feb 8, 2018 18:12:24 GMT -5
I'll be attempting to revive one of these blue Prestolite coil/modules and I heard you (Leon) mention the baking procedure before..just can't find it at the moment.Do you recommend removing the armature prior to baking and how long should it bake for ?
Thank you in advance.
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Post by jerseyhighlander on Feb 8, 2018 19:50:38 GMT -5
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Post by undee70ss on Feb 8, 2018 21:27:46 GMT -5
I'll be attempting to revive one of these blue Prestolite coil/modules and I heard you (Leon) mention the baking procedure before..just can't find it at the moment.Do you recommend removing the armature prior to baking and how long should it bake for ? Thank you in advance. Try here. www.leonschainsawpartsandrepair.com/blog/archives/02-2016 |
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Post by sawnami on Feb 9, 2018 8:40:16 GMT -5
I'll be attempting to revive one of these blue Prestolite coil/modules and I heard you (Leon) mention the baking procedure before..just can't find it at the moment.Do you recommend removing the armature prior to baking and how long should it bake for ? Thank you in advance. Try here. www.leonschainsawpartsandrepair.com/blog/archives/02-2016I've done that on several solid state coils and exciters and had good success. Got a John Deere 66SV twin that I've yet to try it on. |
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Post by blythkd on Dec 7, 2018 10:17:15 GMT -5
My answer may be somewhere else on HoH but I've yet to find it. What I have surmised from others' comments is that the Wico flywheel is opposite polarity of the Phelon flywheel. I may be making this too simple but I'm admittedly no electrical or electronics expert, in fact, it's by far my biggest weakness. If I can see parts moving, I can fix it, electrical on the other hand is like black magic to me.
So here's what I tried on a Super EZ suffering from blue death. I took a coil off of a 94711 ignition module (XL, S2, etc.) and got it installed on an old 94111 armature that had the old blue coil removed. So for all of you that understand this, you already know it did not fire.
So can I install a Phelon flywheel and have success? I know there never was a Phelon flywheel installed at the factory on a late crankshaft (no flat to actuate the points) but see no reason why it would be a problem. But my question remains, will it fire? Timing issues?
I guess if I could find a Phelon flywheel I could compare the orientation of the keyway to the magnets? And for all of you laughing and shaking your heads, I already admitted to being an electrical simpleton so please bear with me!!
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Post by sweepleader on Dec 7, 2018 12:57:40 GMT -5
I think you may be on the right track for most of that.
Those flywheels do have opposite polarity N-S vs S-N as the magnets pass the coil.
You need to use a Phelon rotor and module or both Wico, the iron core does not affect this magnet polarity issue.
The points cam is on the crankshaft, and later cranks do not have it. With or without it has no effect on the electronic ignition, any system
To my knowledge, timing has not been an issue as long as matching parts are used and the system sparks.
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on Dec 7, 2018 20:26:58 GMT -5
Rotor magnet polarity info on Branch Service Memo: 1108CS - DSM: 795 .. dated: 1-79
.. also has some info about the date stamp on the module.
Some SEZ-AO units had Phelon rotors on Wico solid state ignition systems, the magnets on these rotors were
" reversed polarity " to enable them to be used with the Wico/Prestolite Module.
See Branch Service Memo: 1117 CS - DSM: 804 .. dated: 3-79 ... for more information.
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Post by blythkd on Dec 7, 2018 20:50:14 GMT -5
Rotor magnet polarity info on Branch Service Memo: 1108CS - DSM: 795 .. dated: 1-79 .. also has some info about the date stamp on the module. Some SEZ-AO units had Phelon rotors on Wico solid state ignition systems, the magnets on these rotors were " reversed polarity " to enable them to be used with the Wico/Prestolite Module. See Branch Service Memo: 1117 CS - DSM: 804 .. dated: 3-79 ... for more information. Hmm, so that's telling me that a rotor does not care if it's used on a breaker point ignition or an electronic ignition since Phelon ignitions on SEZ saws were all point ignitions. So i'm becoming more optimistic all the time that installing a Phelon rotor with my Frankenstein ignition module may actually work. I've got to find a Phelon rotor so I can try it out. |
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Post by edju1958 on Dec 7, 2018 21:14:23 GMT -5
Leon has used Phelon flywheels for SEZ's for $9.99
Ed
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Post by blythkd on Dec 7, 2018 21:31:35 GMT -5
Leon has used Phelon flywheels for SEZ's for $9.99
Ed
Thanks, nothing wrong with that price. I probably have 1, or more, just need to do some digging. If I don't find one, I'll get it ordered. |
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Post by sweepleader on Dec 7, 2018 21:47:35 GMT -5
Rotor magnet polarity info on Branch Service Memo: 1108CS - DSM: 795 .. dated: 1-79 .. also has some info about the date stamp on the module. Some SEZ-AO units had Phelon rotors on Wico solid state ignition systems, the magnets on these rotors were " reversed polarity " to enable them to be used with the Wico/Prestolite Module. See Branch Service Memo: 1117 CS - DSM: 804 .. dated: 3-79 ... for more information. I have heard of this before but I don't remember how you tell which is straight and which is reversed... If you had a straight one I guess you could check the "reverse" one with a magnet. Hold the magnet to the known wheel and then the "reversed" one to see if the magnet was attracted to both. Without a known straight polarity wheel though, is there a way to tell which it is? |
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Post by 5terrysupersaws on Dec 7, 2018 22:28:47 GMT -5
Rotor magnet polarity info on Branch Service Memo: 1108CS - DSM: 795 .. dated: 1-79 .. also has some info about the date stamp on the module. Some SEZ-AO units had Phelon rotors on Wico solid state ignition systems, the magnets on these rotors were " reversed polarity " to enable them to be used with the Wico/Prestolite Module. See Branch Service Memo: 1117 CS - DSM: 804 .. dated: 3-79 ... for more information. I have heard of this before but I don't remember how you tell which is straight and which is reversed... If you had a straight one I guess you could check the "reverse" one with a magnet. Hold the magnet to the known wheel and then the "reversed" one to see if the magnet was attracted to both. Without a known straight polarity wheel though, is there a way to tell which it is? * From BSM:1117 CS - DSM:804 ; To test a Phelon rotor to see if it is to be used with either a Phelon breaker ignition system or Wico solid state ignition system..do the following. 1. Place a Phelon rotor next to a Wico rotor and align the keyways to face each other. 2. If the poles of the magnets attract each other, the Phelon rotor must be used with a Phelon ignition system ONLY. 3. If the poles of the magnets repel each other, the Phelon rotor must be used with a Wico ignition system ONLY. |
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Post by undee70ss on Dec 8, 2018 1:39:56 GMT -5
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