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Post by lawnmowertech37 on Nov 18, 2009 13:22:25 GMT -5
just found a huge cylinder in the shop that was boxed away in a b ox i never checked in 6 years looks likke a heavy duty cylinder cannot tell if its homelite or an other b rand if i take a picture of it and post it do you think you can identify it if it is a homelite or not
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calvin
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Nov 19, 2009 6:21:38 GMT -5
Cal, post a pic and the P #, maybe someone will know?
Jim
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Post by RBW on Nov 19, 2009 15:47:32 GMT -5
Yep, post a pic and well give it a shot.
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Post by billg on Nov 20, 2009 13:02:46 GMT -5
There should be a number on the base. That would help tremendously. Also measuring the bore will narrow things down and rules things out
Bill
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Post by Eccentric on Nov 24, 2009 11:06:48 GMT -5
just found a huge cylinder in the shop that was boxed away in a b ox i never checked in 6 years looks likke a heavy duty cylinder cannot tell if its homelite or an other b rand if i take a picture of it and post it do you think you can identify it if it is a homelite or not ? calvin If it turns out to be a Tecumseh AH58 jug I may be interested. Same would go for a piston, rings, and crank seals for same. Gotta get the WD60 going someday. May also be interested if it's a jug for a Homelite Original EZ or SW77. |
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Nov 24, 2009 17:58:26 GMT -5
[ Gotta get the WD60 going someday. . I'm only familiar with it's little brother WD-40 ;D CSW |
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Post by lawnmowertech37 on Nov 25, 2009 13:58:28 GMT -5
found 58174-A on the base
also found another cylinder A-97529-2
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Nov 25, 2009 16:41:57 GMT -5
Cal,
I found this on AS:
hope it helps.
Jim
Part # 58174-a has been superceded by 58174-2 and a-69710 which are 2" bore cylinders. And used on models C-51, C-71, C-52 and C-72. That makes the engine either a 4.7 cu. in with a 1 1/2" stroke or a 4.9 cu. in. with a 1 9/16" stroke.
Next AS Post:
Not necessarily true...
The C91 also had the cylinder #58174-A even though it was suppost to be labeled #58174-A1. Really all Homelite C-Series saws had the #58174-A cylinder with different bore diameters being all that made them different. Now I'm sure when you ordered a replacement cylinder you needed the -A1 for the C9's and C91's so they would know which one to give you for the bigger bore, but as stated, they all came from the factory with #58174-A cylinders with the bigger bore on the C9's, C9G's, C91's and C91G's cylinders. I don't know why they didn't label them with the -A1 from the factory, but they didn't... I've got a C9 cylinder beside me right now with the #58174-A cylinder before anyone calls me crazy or wrong... I know the C-Series saws inside and out...
The main way to tell that it is truely a C91, since it's the only Homelite ever made with this feature and with this outer shelling is to look at the idle adjustment. If it's a C91 it will have an idle adjuster just inbetween the kill switch and the upper handle bar section. If it's any other saw, it won't have this adjuster...
Also the C91 had the over running bearing setup for the starter. The rewind will look fairly flat with this setup and if you look just underneath the air shroud fins you should notice a rather large diameter shaft going over the crank. Most XP's, I know of, had the regular "old style" starter dogs and a starter cup setup. The C91 didn't have the starter cup or any of this like the XP's...
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Post by lawnmowertech37 on Nov 26, 2009 9:58:38 GMT -5
Cal, I found this on AS: hope it helps. Jim Part # 58174-a has been superceded by 58174-2 and a-69710 which are 2" bore cylinders. And used on models C-51, C-71, C-52 and C-72. That makes the engine either a 4.7 cu. in with a 1 1/2" stroke or a 4.9 cu. in. with a 1 9/16" stroke. Next AS Post: Not necessarily true... The C91 also had the cylinder #58174-A even though it was suppost to be labeled #58174-A1. Really all Homelite C-Series saws had the #58174-A cylinder with different bore diameters being all that made them different. Now I'm sure when you ordered a replacement cylinder you needed the -A1 for the C9's and C91's so they would know which one to give you for the bigger bore, but as stated, they all came from the factory with #58174-A cylinders with the bigger bore on the C9's, C9G's, C91's and C91G's cylinders. I don't know why they didn't label them with the -A1 from the factory, but they didn't... I've got a C9 cylinder beside me right now with the #58174-A cylinder before anyone calls me crazy or wrong... I know the C-Series saws inside and out... The main way to tell that it is truely a C91, since it's the only Homelite ever made with this feature and with this outer shelling is to look at the idle adjustment. If it's a C91 it will have an idle adjuster just inbetween the kill switch and the upper handle bar section. If it's any other saw, it won't have this adjuster... Also the C91 had the over running bearing setup for the starter. The rewind will look fairly flat with this setup and if you look just underneath the air shroud fins you should notice a rather large diameter shaft going over the crank. Most XP's, I know of, had the regular "old style" starter dogs and a starter cup setup. The C91 didn't have the starter cup or any of this like the XP's... thanks now just finding someone to get this and put it to use |
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Post by bafarm on Nov 26, 2009 20:14:57 GMT -5
Hello Calvin,
If this turns out to be a C-9 bore 2.0625 52.3 mm
I would be interested in having a shot at it. Please PM me will a price.
Thank you in advance, Don
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Post by MCS on Nov 26, 2009 22:53:05 GMT -5
Cal, I found this on AS: hope it helps. Jim Part # 58174-a has been superceded by 58174-2 and a-69710 which are 2" bore cylinders. And used on models C-51, C-71, C-52 and C-72. That makes the engine either a 4.7 cu. in with a 1 1/2" stroke or a 4.9 cu. in. with a 1 9/16" stroke. Next AS Post: Not necessarily true... The C91 also had the cylinder #58174-A even though it was suppost to be labeled #58174-A1. Really all Homelite C-Series saws had the #58174-A cylinder with different bore diameters being all that made them different. Now I'm sure when you ordered a replacement cylinder you needed the -A1 for the C9's and C91's so they would know which one to give you for the bigger bore, but as stated, they all came from the factory with #58174-A cylinders with the bigger bore on the C9's, C9G's, C91's and C91G's cylinders. I don't know why they didn't label them with the -A1 from the factory, but they didn't... I've got a C9 cylinder beside me right now with the #58174-A cylinder before anyone calls me crazy or wrong... I know the C-Series saws inside and out... I went through my IPLs and the part number for the C-9 was originally 58175. 58175 was superseded by 58174-1A. Casting numbers didn't always match perfectly with part numbers. In this case, I'd bet they used the same casting, 58174-A, for both the 2" and the 2 1/16" bores but finished them to different sizes and so they had different part numbers which is what would be on the shipping box. I can't see Homelite doing it any other way, there would be too many problems. My IPLs show 58174-1A for both the C-9 and the C-91. |
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