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Post by keknw8 on Mar 21, 2022 11:54:33 GMT -5
curious about replacing the spring-rewind.
this 150 is over 34 yo. it does start, only after a lot of pulls when cold and sometimes needs a squirt of fuel to prime. wondering if replacing the spring-rewind it would give it a stonger pull, for lack of a better explanation. or do they rearely need replacing?
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Post by blythkd on Mar 21, 2022 17:06:51 GMT -5
The only part of the starter side of the saw that might possibly help give it a better rip is the flywheel nut which also contains the overrunning bearing that provides the crank when you pull the rope. Replacing some of the rewind parts may help the rope recoil better but that's about it.
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Post by w30bob on Mar 21, 2022 19:01:54 GMT -5
Hi ke,
Your issue isn't with the starter, it's with a fuel system that's 34 years old. That's asking a lot from the materials available 34 years ago. Even if it ran good, it would only be a matter of time before it would need some attention. I'd bite the bullet and kit the carb and change the fuel lines now, before it gets worse. It's pretty simple stuff and not that expensive........and you'll thank yourself down the road.
;O)
bob
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Post by keknw8 on Mar 21, 2022 20:08:05 GMT -5
Hi ke, Your issue isn't with the starter, it's with a fuel system that's 34 years old. That's asking a lot from the materials available 34 years ago. Even if it ran good, it would only be a matter of time before it would need some attention. I'd bite the bullet and kit the carb and change the fuel lines now, before it gets worse. It's pretty simple stuff and not that expensive........and you'll thank yourself down the road. ;O) bob understood and point taken. but i did replace the HDC-45 with a new unused HDC-54. carb is good in this case. much has been replaced. didn't replace the block and piston assembly though. thanks |
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Post by keknw8 on Mar 21, 2022 20:12:47 GMT -5
The only part of the starter side of the saw that might possibly help give it a better rip is the flywheel nut which also contains the overrunning bearing that provides the crank when you pull the rope. Replacing some of the rewind parts may help the rope recoil better but that's about it. i'm gonna order that nut. i've seen leon vids of him replacing them, usually a bearing inside it is messed up or something. i don't see any damage inside this nut that sticks out to my inexperienced eyes. i'll give that a try, thanks |
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Post by blythkd on Mar 21, 2022 20:57:53 GMT -5
You might try cleaning the rollers first if you think it's not engaging as it should. Then if you decide to replace it, just remember it's left hand thread.
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Post by keknw8 on Mar 22, 2022 12:41:32 GMT -5
You might try cleaning the rollers first if you think it's not engaging as it should. Then if you decide to replace it, just remember it's left hand thread. didn't appear too dirty but i cleaned it anyways. i went ahead and ordered a nos/oem nut for this model. i'll try [it] and see if i can tell any diff and if it gets primed quicker.
thx
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Post by keknw8 on Mar 28, 2022 18:58:40 GMT -5
i put a new flywheel nut on. pretty sure it gives it a lil more rip. but i managed to break the starter spring after a few pulls along with the starter cord breaking.
the price for nos/oem springs on ebay are avg about $25 for 65107 part. too, i see some aftermarket one's cheaper but a few reviews mention the the end wouldn't fit the pulley on the 150.
just askin, is $25 the going rate?
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Post by bobby167 on Mar 29, 2022 8:33:19 GMT -5
I try to use OEM parts, but some aftermarket parts are ok. I purchased a ROTARY brand spring for one of my personal 150's. It is still working ok. I see them listed around $10.00 or so. Personally $15 to $20 for NOS is nor real bad. If free shipping, it's even better. If you want OEM, find seller that will take offer's. Most times 10 to 12% off there asking price will buy it. Did you check Leon's site for it? Great person to deal with. Also did you put a VERY lite coat of grease on flywheel shaft? Most of times I found old grease gets hard, causing problems. As i have said before, you get what you pay for.
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Post by keknw8 on Mar 29, 2022 13:02:56 GMT -5
I try to use OEM parts, but some aftermarket parts are ok. I purchased a ROTARY brand spring for one of my personal 150's. It is still working ok. I see them listed around $10.00 or so. Personally $15 to $20 for NOS is nor real bad. If free shipping, it's even better. If you want OEM, find seller that will take offer's. Most times 10 to 12% off there asking price will buy it. Did you check Leon's site for it? Great person to deal with. Also did you put a VERY lite coat of grease on flywheel shaft? Most of times I found old grease gets hard, causing problems. As i have said before, you get what you pay for. yes, i did check with Leon's. ordered a starter rope and retainer 68612 (in case i mess up the one currently in place), but didn't see a 65107 spring for 150's. Leon is indeed super to deal with and without his excellent video's i wouldn't have made it this far helping my neighbor get this 150 up and running after it sitting in his garage for decades. then headed over to ebay and saw the "rotary" brand. that's where i saw a review or two about it not fitting up with the 150 starter pulley. that isn't many neg reviews though and your "rotary" purchase worked ok for your 150. lilredbarn has one for 10.00, www.lilredbarn.net/product-p/1701.htm . that one may in fact be a "rotary" brand also? i'll ask seller or two on ebay if they'll drop 10-12% as you suggest and see where that gets me. if they won't agree i can order the "rotary" and give it a try. let me ask, regarding the starter rope, do you use the whole 42" (approx) or trim it shorter? the first new cord i used to replace orig it just broke as i mentioned earlier. i had cut it shorter to approx 37". 37" length is what the original started cord was. curious if that even makes much diff with this type starter? appreciate your help! |
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Post by bobby167 on Mar 29, 2022 14:33:20 GMT -5
Keep in mind, if you go with aftermarket spring, it could be hit or miss. Other member's here could possibly let you know what they use. ROTARY was the one that was good price, about 2 yrs ago. Yea, I had good luck with making offer's to seller's, especially if they had it listed for some time without any bids. Cant do any harm to ask. Starter rope. I personally would put on what it will hold. 42" should be fine for, I think, the #4 size?
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Post by keknw8 on Mar 29, 2022 14:46:24 GMT -5
Keep in mind, if you go with aftermarket spring, it could be hit or miss. Other member's here could possibly let you know what they use. ROTARY was the one that was good price, about 2 yrs ago. Yea, I had good luck with making offer's to seller's, especially if they had it listed for some time without any bids. Cant do any harm to ask. Starter rope. I personally would put on what it will hold. 42" should be fine for, I think, the #4 size? points taken. waiting on replies now if they'll do a percentage reduction.... we'll see. at least with oem/nos spring, i know it should fit the pulley for this 150. and s/h costs these days are high now that i think about it. yes, #4 for starter rope: "NOS Homelite 150, 330, Super EZ Automatic chainsaw 42" #4 starter rope, part# A-93876. Box# Small Parts" edit1: got the oem/nos for -12%. should be able to give it a rip this weekend and see how it does. |
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