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Post by jj on Apr 9, 2021 14:37:33 GMT -5
Hey everyone! First time on here. I have had a lot of success giving and receiving help on a Cub Cadet Forum I am on, and thought I should give it a try here.
I have a 360 Automatic and cannot get the oiler to work properly. I did receive the unit in pretty rough shape, but I cleaned it and got it running like a champ! One major problem is that it did not have the adjustment screw in the oiler at the front of the saw. I looked on line and did not have much success in finding the part, I did find the dimensions of it and bought a replacement screw for it. Still not working. I do not know if the original screw had pointed end like some set screws, or if I am missing something all together. I did replace the pump, and now have two that don't work! Please help me get this thing cutting through some oak! It is a strong saw with an aggressive original chain on it, but I cannot get it to oil!
Thanks for all your help, JJ Ohio
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Post by blythkd on Apr 9, 2021 17:06:31 GMT -5
What are you calling an adjustment screw? They really don't have an adjustment screw per se. The adjustable models had a bent sheet metal hook that screwed to the front of the oiler that accepted a flat screwdriver to turn the oiler for adjustment. Most 360's weren't meant to even be adjustable but they look about the same and a lot of guys assume the adjuster is missing but they never had one.
But never fear, we'll get it figured out.
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Post by stillsawing on Apr 11, 2021 11:10:01 GMT -5
the difference between the two oilers is the adjustable pump has 4 o-rings, the non adjustable has 3. The parts for either or are not interchangeable. Not sure if the earlier 360s had the adjustable pump. The 350 has a different design in the pump side of the crankcase and cam pin is not the same. You've come to the right place to get it correct, welcome to to the forum.
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jj
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Post by jj on Apr 12, 2021 10:04:50 GMT -5
Thank you for the fast responses. I guess I will start tonight by looking at the original pump that was in the unit. I will also get the serial number off of it and see if it may be an older model. It seems to me that the exploded view on any of the Homelite sights are extremely hard to read. In referencing the "bent sheet metal hook" could you please help me with a part # for it? I guess I just assumed that the threaded opening at the front called for a set screw for flow adjustment.
Thank you to everyone for the comments, gives me some investigating to do.
JJ Ohio
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Post by blythkd on Apr 12, 2021 11:30:46 GMT -5
The bent piece of sheet metal that screws to the front of an adjustable oiler is actually called the oil adjustment lever, pn 12141. Your oiler sounds like a non-adjustable style which is what was used on most 360's. 350's and early 360's used adjustable versions.
When you look at the front of the pump, there's a pin showing next to the threaded center boss. If that pin is driven in flush to the surface of the pump, you have a non-adjustable pump. If the pin is protruding about 1/16", then it's the adjustable type. Odds are, it's the non adjustable. If it's non-adjustable, then nothing should be fastened to the front of the pump. You only use the threaded hole to insert a screw to pull the pump if you need to service it.
You can tell for sure which style of oiler you have by inspecting the drivecase area next to the pump for the pin or screw that retains the pump in the saw case. If it's a 8-32 screw with a 1/4" hex head and spring washer under the head, it's a non-adjustable type. That screw sets against the pump body and locks it down so it can't turn.
If you see a large thin hex head, 9/16" or so I think, give or take, then it's an adjustable type. This type of retainer screw is actually a follower that sits in a groove in the pump shaft and actuates the pump shaft which is also an integral plunger.
So let us know which one you have and we'll go from there.
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Post by jj on Apr 13, 2021 10:01:13 GMT -5
Thank you for all the great info. I was wondering if that threaded part on the front was for pulling the pump (that's what I did with it)! I will dig into it this weekend as I have been too busy at work to get out to the barn lately.
Thanks again, and more to come!
JJ Ohio
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