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Post by edju1958 on Jan 14, 2021 18:46:32 GMT -5
Hi folks,Al (Jarhead) was kind enough to sell me his old C91.I got it yesterday & I was pretty excited about it.I knew it was a runner already,but it needed a little tweaking.The rewind rope was hanging out a tad,so I pulled the recoil off expecting to see a Fairbanks Morse starter & was surprised to see the overrunning bearing style starter.I'd just as soon work on the F-M starter any day of the week as opposed to working on the overrunning bearing starter.It was a real PITA to try to get the rope rewound a little tighter,but I finally managed to get it done.As Al told me the PO took the stack muffler & "modified" it,they cut the separations out of it so it was like having an open stack,loud as hell,Lol.I just happened to have a NOS muffler for a C series saw on hand,so it went to a very deserving saw.The only thing left for me to do is hunt up a bar & chain for itIt's a strong runner & I can't wait to take it out later in the spring.Thank you Al! (I'll get some pics on here as soon as I get the bar & chain on)
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Post by ronaldt on Jan 14, 2021 19:30:47 GMT -5
The C-51,71,and 91 all had the over running bearing style recoil as opposed to the FM style on the 5,7,and 9. The weird thing is that they went back to the FM style on the C-52. Must have had left over parts to use up.
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Post by edju1958 on Jan 14, 2021 20:04:09 GMT -5
I've got a C71 & I've never noticed which starter was on it.I know I had the starter off when I rebuilt the carb.Now what about the C72,which starter does that have?
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Post by blythkd on Jan 14, 2021 20:42:13 GMT -5
You all got my curiosity up and the parts book was right by my recliner so I looked it up. C-72 shows the dog type clutch like an XL.
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Post by xl130 on Jan 14, 2021 20:57:39 GMT -5
Both Terry C-51 saws that I have are equipped with FM starters.
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Post by onlyhomelites on Jan 14, 2021 22:12:24 GMT -5
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Post by ronaldt on Jan 14, 2021 23:46:54 GMT -5
I learn something new everyday!
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Post by Jarhead ☠ on Jan 16, 2021 8:03:21 GMT -5
This was my replacement C-91 so why not share the wealth to a member! Hey Ed I had a bar for the saw but it sounded like you didn't want or need it.  |
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Post by edju1958 on Jan 16, 2021 10:10:07 GMT -5
I took the saw outside yesterday to fire it up with the NOS muffler I put on it the other day & also to see if rewinding the recoil rope did the trick or not.The saw was a lot quieter than the open stack that was on it.I can't understand why the PO cut the stack muffler out the way he did.
Unfortunately the rewinding of the starter rope wasn't the answer.I guess I'll have to pull the thing apart to see what's causing it to leave the rope hanging out.
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Post by Jarhead ☠ on Jan 16, 2021 10:43:02 GMT -5
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Post by Jarhead ☠ on Jan 16, 2021 11:22:13 GMT -5
Unbelievable, I just pulled this # for my haircut. 😳  |
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Post by edju1958 on Jan 16, 2021 16:36:34 GMT -5
Maybe God is trying to tell you something?Lol Next is the burning bush.
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Post by edju1958 on Jan 19, 2021 18:19:25 GMT -5
I pulled the recoil apart today to see why it keeps losing tension on the rope.Apparently the spring lock came off the pulley.Why did Homelite use a 2 piece pulley for the recoil?They didn't use it on the other C series saws that had the F-M starters.Also,I went to download an IPL for the C91 & there is none to download.I ended up putting the recoil on from the XP-1000 that I bought a couple of months ago.It wouldn't work right on the XP,but it's working fine on the C91.The only thing is it's missing a couple rungs on the fan housing.Will any C series fan housing work?
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Post by edju1958 on Jan 19, 2021 20:43:48 GMT -5
I got it back together again,re-tensioned it,& as soon as I pulled the rope it came undone again.I pulled it apart again & looked much closer & found the spring is indeed broken.I don't think a C series spring will work,I think it needs a spring for the XP series,it looks to be a much heavier spring.
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Post by Jarhead ☠ on Jan 20, 2021 13:39:39 GMT -5
Wow, I do believe something went wrong with this thread..
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Post by edju1958 on Jan 20, 2021 15:21:40 GMT -5
It's OK Al,it's very hard to see the break.I've got a new spring ordered from Leon,so it should be here in a few days.I'll get a pic on here to show how difficult it is to see where it's broken.Right now I've got the XP-1000 recoil on it & it's working fine.
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Post by edju1958 on Jan 20, 2021 20:01:06 GMT -5
I've got a couple pics of the spring here.You might be able to see the break right off,but it takes me a bit to see it.
You should be able to see it better in this pic at 8 o'clock.
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Post by Jarhead ☠ on Jan 23, 2021 9:36:14 GMT -5
Wow Ed do I feel like a fool😳 I never even thought about the spring being broken.
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Post by edju1958 on Jan 23, 2021 11:14:47 GMT -5
As they say Al,**** happens,Lol.On another note,the XP-1000 I got back in Nov.had a couple of broken rungs on the fan hopusing,so I wanted to replace it with a new one.Now I bought a new fan housing for a C7 back last summer & it was $20,so I figured it'd be around the same price,WRONG! The fan housing for the XP-1000 was $45! Obviously I didn't buy it for that price.If I put the fan housings right next to each other it doesn't look like there's a bit of difference.I've got a fan housing that came off a seized C5,but it blue,nothing that a fizz can can't fix.First I have to see if it'll bolt up.
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Post by edju1958 on Jan 25, 2021 0:21:35 GMT -5
Thank you Leon,I got the parts I ordered from you on Sat.,but haven't had a chance to put that dang spring in the C91 fan housing yet.Been busy the last couple days getting firewood in the basement.Then today I decided to take out a frozen pizza from the chest freezer that I bought 4 1/2 yrs.ago & noticed the light didn't come on.It has power at the outlet,so there's a new freezer full of meat that's dead.Now I'll have to empty that out & find places to store it outside & hope the weather stays cold enough.I just can't seem to catch a break.I guess I found what to do with the stimulus money,Lol.Generally I don't work on saws at night,but if I want to get anything done I might have to start.
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