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Post by doublemm on Apr 10, 2009 18:28:40 GMT -5
Well, I didnt get them. I had planned on going & looking at the lot.
I was told that someone form Springfield Mo (gee, who could that be) was looking at them & a few others.
Suposedly someone from the "St louis area" bought them & picked them up Thursday morning.
The seller was suposed to call me & give me the contact info of the buyer so I could get in touch with them.
So far, it all remains a mystery & thats about all I know.
Zip, you beter check in here & chime in....
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Apr 10, 2009 19:45:35 GMT -5
The Ole'Zipster's being conspicuously quiet on this???
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Post by doublemm on Apr 10, 2009 20:55:37 GMT -5
The Ole'Zipster's being conspicuously quiet on this??? Yes he is. I hope he got them. There are some parts in there that I need.
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Post by chainsawwhisperer on Apr 11, 2009 7:06:14 GMT -5
Yes, I hope so as well. But, weather he did or not I think it he'll have a good tale for us
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Post by oldzip on Apr 11, 2009 21:03:58 GMT -5
Ok folks, this is what has happened with the Missouri part lot.
I contacted the seller Monday and arranged to go up and look on Tuesday. I was told at that time(Monday) that the only other looker was going to be there next Saturday. This is supposedly the "near St. Louis" guy. I asked him if he had been selling any pieces of it since the CL ad mentioned that. I was told that he had decided not to break any of it up, so I was relieved to hear that. He also mentioned he had all the parts books as well and that they went too. He went on to say that even the shelves could go as he didnt need them. I didnt have a thou hidden in my shoe, so I asked if it was possible to put the sale on a card. The seller said no. I explained that I wanted the lot, no question, and would pay the $1K without trying to haggle on the price. I asked if I could give him part of the money, would he hold this stuff awhile while I got him the rest of the money and arranged to get it moved. He said he would do this if I could get him the money and have the stuff gone within a couple months. I was thinking more like a few days or weeks, so that sounded really good to me. I would have some time to get folks and their money together, and also see about getting the lot moved. He couldnt take a card or any other form of electronic payment, so I told him I would be up on Tuesday to look and discuss it more. At this time I thought I had until the weekend to get something done. At this point I started to solicit a few of the members here at HoH for funds to acquire the lot. I was also contacted by a few members who wished to help save these parts as well. On Tuesday a buddy and I made the trip up to Columbia. 3 hrs one way with alot being two lane. We get there sometime around 1500. Its some kind of farm implement place from the looks of it, but its hard to tell. I look at the lot the best I can since its all still hidden on shelves in parts boxes two deep, etc. I talk to the seller awhile and try my best to figure out how to get him fully paid. He kept suggesting I get a cash advance on my card. No way did I want to do that. The interest on something like that would be astronomical considering the latest credit card company hijinx with rates. After seeing the lot, my buddy said he could float me the cash, but it wasnt in his shoe either. In any event it meant a trip home and back. By this time it was somewhere around 1600. 3 hrs home, 3 hrs back up. This guy wasnt going to hang around till 10 or 11 at night, thousand dollars or not. Now as I'm standing there doing my damndest to figure this out, the seller tells me that some other guy has called and wants to look. The seller also says this other guy is one who was supposed to look at the parts the previous weekend. I'm a bit confused, so I ask exactly how many he has chasing these parts. He said three. Myself, the one who had said he would come the coming weekend, and the one who had missed coming last weekend, but is now getting back in the game. The seller tells me that this guy will call Wednesday morning to see whether I take the parts today(Tues). Now I'm trying to figure out what I can give this man to hold this lot. Even tho he had said the day before that he would work with me, he wouldnt accept any partial payment as I stood there. My buddy and I had a couple hundred on us, and then I could come back early the next day with the rest from my buddy. Nope. No way. He needed that money. All of it. Right now. So we left for home disgusted. 3 hrs home wondering why this guy had suddenly turned into an ass. My buddy loaned me the money that night since I had decided to be there waiting on this mans doorstep the next morning. So I get up at 04:30 and out by 05:00 getting there about 07:45. When I arrived I thot it might be wise to 'go on record' and give the guy a call to let him know I was physically here holding the money. I used a business card he had given me the day before that had his cell and home numbers on it. The cell went straight to voice mail(big surprise), but his wife picked up the home phone. She put him on and I told him who I was and that I was standing here with the money. He told me that was great, but that the other guy was coming to look. I told him to just hold on one minute, I was here yesterday and tried everything I could to secure the lot, and that now here I am standing right here, holding the money. He went on to give me some BS about having to give this guy a chance, and that _I_ didnt know the "rules", whatever the hell that meant. I told him that his entire hangup the previous day was about getting the money, and that here I stood with it, so whats the problem? He wasnt having any of it, so I asked him when he would be in to get this settled. This was a few minutes before 08:00. He said in about an hour. When I got back from making that call the business had opened, so I went inside and sat down to wait. In about an hour the seller comes in and goes about making what was obviously 'busy-work' in order to avoid me. Out of the blue he comes up and just blurts out "So where'd you get the money"? I'm thinking; whats it to you? But I just say "I've got it right here". He goes on to say that he has spoken with the other guy and he's on his way to 'look' at the lot. So now I'm thinking that I know when THAT call was made, and by WHO. So around 10:00 this other guy shows up, spends about 30 seconds looking around at the stuff and hands the seller a bank envelope. The seller walks over to me and says "He's gonna go ahead and take it".(gee, imagine that) So I state that I am at least going to introduce myself. Up to this point I hadnt even been acknowledged, even tho we were all in plain sight of one another and I saw the new buyer shooting me glances. I walked up to the man and asked if I could get his name, number or other info. Which he gave. I flatly stated that my intentions were to save the lot from going across Ebay. Upon hearing that the man just stared at me. Then he says that he has Homelite saws that he uses and that he's here to buy the lot to keep his saws running. So, I ask what he has and what he's working on. He says he has a couple 330's and one or two more that I dont remember now. I've had my fill of all of it, so I turn around and leave, once again disgusted.
So there you go everyone, thats how the cookie crumbled for (nearly)everyone here at HoH. Even tho I represented several enthusiasts who only wanted to see these parts go to those directly in need, our money wasnt green enough.
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Post by MCS on Apr 11, 2009 21:42:46 GMT -5
Wow, what a story Of course what isn't known, the other guy may have offered 1200 when he found out others were already there or on the way - we will never know. I'm sure it will take awhile for you to brush this aside.
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Post by redsqwrl on Apr 11, 2009 22:19:28 GMT -5
I do a fair bit of horse trading. and I have been on both sides of missed deals I do my damdest to be fair. I had guys Fighting over a car while a another gentleman was out test driving it with his kid, Both started offering more money to sell it to them while the other guy was out driving it....... I was a shithead no matter witch way the deal went.
The *rules* are a convieniant way for that gentleman to get some sleep that night......
at least you got a chance to try.
Redsqwrl
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Post by doublemm on Apr 11, 2009 23:05:55 GMT -5
I was one of the other contenders. I had planned on going up this last Friday (yesterday) as I had the day off. I am only about 1.5 hours away
I live just outside of the St Louis area.
Henry told me that he would give me the name & number of the buyer.
All I know is that his name is chris.
There is a guy on the SL craigslist that has a 330 & 2 360's listed. I cant help but wonder if he bought the parts. If he did, they will end up on ebay.
He is calling the 330 a "Pro" saw..... & is asking ridiculous money for it & is asking 20 each for the 360's
I am really surprised that Hawkins brothers did not go after it.
I might do some "Fishing" on CL & see if I can find the buyer.
I was really hoping that Old Zip got the parts.
Oh well.
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Post by OBR on Apr 11, 2009 23:57:15 GMT -5
Wow....that is ridiculous....no other term for it. I've heard of a$$hole moves before but that totally takes the cake right there. Last I checked the "rule" is most always the first guy with the cash gets the take....but then again im only 18 and handled a few dozen transactions...so wut do I no..... Major bummer....i was considering buying a fixer 550 w/ hopes there'd be parts in that lot i could secure to fix it...guess not... I guess my question is: why the heck is some dude with a couple 330's (of all saws) spending 1K on parts to "keep them running" For that kind of money he might as well have bought two 750's....then he'd have something worth keeping running............
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Post by billg on Apr 12, 2009 2:01:48 GMT -5
Interesting. The gentleman that I thought got them did not
Brian,
A simple phone call to me would have saved you a whole heck of a lot of frustration on raising the money.
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Post by doublemm on Apr 12, 2009 9:51:07 GMT -5
Interesting. The gentleman that I thought got them dod not Brian, A simple phone call to me would have saved you a whole heck of a lot of frustration on raising the money. I assume that would have been me..... If I only could have gotten there sooner. Work & family schedules prohibited that though. I will still try to track down the buyer though.
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Post by billg on Apr 12, 2009 11:45:12 GMT -5
Interesting. The gentleman that I thought got them dod not Brian, A simple phone call to me would have saved you a whole heck of a lot of frustration on raising the money. I assume that would have been me..... If I only could have gotten there sooner. Work & family schedules prohibited that though. I will still try to track down the buyer though. Hello Mike, Yes I thought you got them. When I saw it was someone from around St Louis I figured you were the one. Seems like it must have been a real strange deal. On a side note Hamilton is August 7-9. I will shoot you a email later. Bill
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Post by oldzip on Apr 12, 2009 13:53:12 GMT -5
The *rules* are a convieniant way for that gentleman to get some sleep that night...... Naw, if you'd have met him you would know right away that That wasnt a consideration for him.
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Post by oldzip on Apr 12, 2009 14:07:35 GMT -5
I was one of the other contenders. I had planned on going up this last Friday (yesterday) as I had the day off. I am only about 1.5 hours away Henry told me that he would give me the name & number of the buyer. All I know is that his name is chris. There is a guy on the SL craigslist that has a 330 & 2 360's listed. I cant help but wonder if he bought the parts. If he did, they will end up on ebay. I am really surprised that Hawkins brothers did not go after it. MM, I and I'm sure many others, would like to know a little more detail of your involvement. Since you have posted I am again wondering who is who. If you are the St.L man that was mentioned earlier by the seller, then when did the other St.L guy get involved? What were YOU told by the seller? And when? If you can find out more about the guy with the saws that you mentioned, I would like to know. BTW, if you dont wish to speak out publicly, then you could reply to the PM I sent you the other day about this. Brian
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Post by oldzip on Apr 12, 2009 14:44:03 GMT -5
I've heard of a$$hole moves before but that totally takes the cake right there. Last I checked the "rule" is most always the first guy with the cash gets the take... I guess my question is: why the heck is some dude with a couple 330's (of all saws) spending 1K on parts to "keep them running" Well young man, you should be aware that you live in a world where many people dont give two squirts about if what comes out of their mouths is the truth or a lie. It stinks but its a fact. Its refreshing to see a guy your age thats into our hobby. I'll bet lots of the older guys here will agree. Hopefully we can give some good examples of how good folks treat others. To answer your question, you Dont go spend a thou on parts to keep a few saws going.
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Post by oldzip on Apr 12, 2009 14:52:29 GMT -5
Brian, A simple phone call to me would have saved you a whole heck of a lot of frustration on raising the money. Bill, How so? I was able to get the money. Please explain what you mean...
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Post by OBR on Apr 12, 2009 16:31:47 GMT -5
I've heard of a$$hole moves before but that totally takes the cake right there. Last I checked the "rule" is most always the first guy with the cash gets the take... I guess my question is: why the heck is some dude with a couple 330's (of all saws) spending 1K on parts to "keep them running" Well young man, you should be aware that you live in a world where many people dont give two squirts about if what comes out of their mouths is the truth or a lie. It stinks but its a fact. Its refreshing to see a guy your age thats into our hobby. I'll bet lots of the older guys here will agree. Hopefully we can give some good examples of how good folks treat others. To answer your question, you Dont go spend a thou on parts to keep a few saws going. I hear ya Zip. I am fully aware of people such as that and have dealt with a few on occasion. It is really pathetic how worthless so many people's word have become. I haven't been around as long as most of you, but when you're dealing in the real world it doesn't take long to figure things out. I personally will not ever do business this way. As far as why I am here...I have a deep respect for these old saws. I've seen them in use on this farm of ours since I can rmember, they have always been a part of my life. I thoroughly enjoy them. I also have a great respect for all the people on this board, this is a very knowledgable great group of people from which I have learned much. I appreciate all your help, apologize for being off topic, and I'll be around to help where I can in future.
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Post by lesorubcheek on Apr 12, 2009 17:24:27 GMT -5
Its a sad statement of human-kind. The wasted time/expense there and back is one thing, but the fact this seller's word means nothing is really disheartening. All I can think to say is try to search for some forgiveness. If it were me, I'd be cussing the bstrd for the next few years, but you're a better man than I am Brian.
Dan
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Post by chainsawlady on Dec 17, 2014 12:12:13 GMT -5
I was told yesterday (from the seller) that the buyer was from the St louis area. doublemn Wondering if you are still buying parts for your Homelite saw and not paying for them. I could have sold the 101 cylinder to someone else by now, who would have appreciated it. Met a lot of good people on the forums, but your name isn't one of them. chainsawlady
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