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Post by geochurchi on Jan 9, 2012 7:59:25 GMT -5
Hi,how do I remove the clutch from a Super EZ?
Thanks
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Post by tribulation138 on Jan 9, 2012 17:19:26 GMT -5
theyre left handed threads (clockwise to remove)
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Post by lesorubcheek on Jan 9, 2012 19:08:10 GMT -5
There's been a couple different types of clutches on the SEZs, but they all need some type of spanner wrench, either 2 or 3 prongs. As trib said, they're left handed threads so clockwise loosens 'em. I've made homemade spanners using flat iron stock, drilling holes to line up with the clutch and then using bolts to run through to act as pins. Some people just use a hammer and knock a clutch loose, but with my luck, that would end in too many broken clutches.
Dan
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Post by geochurchi on Jan 11, 2012 8:33:19 GMT -5
OK Thanks guy's my luck would be the same.
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Post by tribulation138 on Jan 11, 2012 12:51:24 GMT -5
One of these days im gonna do a video on how i get them off without a wrench
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Post by amcbride69 on Jan 11, 2012 18:37:30 GMT -5
Not trying to point out the obvious but you also need to keep the engine from turning while you unscrew it . There are several ways to do this my personal favorite is to put the piston toward the bottom and fill the cylinder with nylon cord.
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Post by lesorubcheek on Jan 11, 2012 19:59:29 GMT -5
Good point amc. One takes for granted all those little tricks of the trade and its easy to assume everyone else knows 'em, but its not always the case. The "rope trick" is my preferred method as well, don't even own a piston stop. Read a few stories of the metal screw in stops busting the crown of a piston and that's always scared me.
Dan
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Post by tommyhnavix on Jan 21, 2012 18:01:40 GMT -5
WOW!!! Bought this tool 20 some years ago for like $30.00. buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?.... store&tool=all It is truely a great universal clutch remover tool. All brands. Has 2 set of pins 1/4" x1/2" long and 3/16 x 1/4 long. Either insert tool in pin holes in clutch hole or in gap between clutch shoes. Works like a charm. Also have made some out of 3/8" x 12" key stock. Drill ends for size pins you want and put a # 41 roller chain connector link in holes on other end to hook then together like a hinge. Also works great and can cost as little as $5.00 . A very usefull tool for a bargain price. You can truely feel how tight it was and know you got it installed fairly tight. If not tight they can self loosen sometimes if you start a saw up without a bar and chain on. I try not to do that unless the clutch has a keeper or nut to hold it on. If it comes loose it can fly A LONG ways!! Hopefully not right up your forehead!! Saw that happen once!! img23.imageshack.us/img23/9625/chainsawclutchtools.jpg |
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Post by geochurchi on Feb 19, 2012 13:57:02 GMT -5
Great suggestion, now that I have the clutch removed I assume that directly under it maybe the oil pump, how is that removed ?The reason for all of this is to get to plate under it which is supporting the handle one of the 3 screws under there is stripped out and needs to be retapped. Anyone know where I can get aparts breakdown ?
Thanks
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Post by MCS on Feb 19, 2012 14:58:32 GMT -5
Sent you a email with IPL attached.
If the clutch is off, you can remove the three screws that hold the pump in place and pull it and the worm gear from the crank. I'm not sure this will buy you anything. Which screw is stripped out?
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Post by geochurchi on Feb 20, 2012 9:18:42 GMT -5
One of the 3 12/24 screws I was hoping I couid pull the drive case off to access the hole to either retap or install a Helcoil.
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Post by riseandrun on Nov 25, 2012 9:16:08 GMT -5
I know this is an old post, but Ijust want to verify something. The clutch screws on? I can put a "homemade" tool in two of the three holes and turn in the direction of off? I often miss the obvious.  In my case I'm taking about a Super XL. Thanks WOW!!! Bought this tool 20 some years ago for like $30.00. buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?.... store&tool=all It is truely a great universal clutch remover tool. All brands. Has 2 set of pins 1/4" x1/2" long and 3/16 x 1/4 long. Either insert tool in pin holes in clutch hole or in gap between clutch shoes. Works like a charm. Also have made some out of 3/8" x 12" key stock. Drill ends for size pins you want and put a # 41 roller chain connector link in holes on other end to hook then together like a hinge. Also works great and can cost as little as $5.00 . A very usefull tool for a bargain price. You can truely feel how tight it was and know you got it installed fairly tight. If not tight they can self loosen sometimes if you start a saw up without a bar and chain on. I try not to do that unless the clutch has a keeper or nut to hold it on. If it comes loose it can fly A LONG ways!! Hopefully not right up your forehead!! Saw that happen once!! img23.imageshack.us/img23/9625/chainsawclutchtools.jpg |
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Post by tommyhnavix on Nov 25, 2012 15:23:48 GMT -5
Clutch screws on,BUT it's LH thread. You need to turn it clockwise to loosen it  Can pot some recoil starter rope down the spark plug hole to lock the piston in place and keep crankshaft from turning during removal. I usually take the muffler or muffler cover off so I can see that the rope does not stick out into the muffler. I broke a ring one time when it did as the piston cut the rope and jammed down along the piston  Most saw clutches that screw on are LH thread regardless of brand. Sometimes homemade tools work best  Tom |
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Post by riseandrun on Nov 26, 2012 21:50:31 GMT -5
I made a quick puller out of a piece of 2" wide o1 tool steel. Would probably only work on a XL 12. Now I need a tool for pulling the flywheel. My regular pullers are too big to fit between the flywheel and the body of the saw. Need something flat. Anyone got any pictures of what should be used?
Thanks
Kevin
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Post by tommyhnavix on Nov 27, 2012 11:38:43 GMT -5
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Post by riseandrun on Dec 9, 2012 12:40:24 GMT -5
After reading a couple of other posts, I decided to try the hammer to the side of the flywheel trick. One experienced repairman mentioned that he does it all the time. I actually think it would work good, just don't hit the fins with your hammer . A lesson learned, and lots of parts available on ebay. ) I tried gluing the fin on with some 2 part epoxy, but doubt it's strength. I also wouldn't like it to fly off while in use. The question is, would the saw vibrate too much with the missing fin? Could I balance it perhaps by breaking the opposing fin? this is the type I have: www.ebay.com/itm/HOMELITE-XL-12-CHAINSAW-FLYWHEEL-BOX1059C-/230788790622?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bc15795e. I'm being serious. Thanks! |
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Post by tommyhnavix on Dec 9, 2012 17:18:17 GMT -5
Tapping on the side of the flywheel can scramble the magnet in the flywheel and weaken it's strength over time. One fin broken of may cause a slight vibration. Breaking off the opposite one will make the vibration worse. You will have to decide if you can live with the vibration. If you are just going to use the saw for short periods of time and it doesn't make your arms numb leave it as is. If you are going to use it a lot or the vibration seems to much, by all means replace the flywheel. Some times short cuts can cost you more than you planned Glad you shared tough . It is better to learn from someone else's mistake before you make the same one Tom have also broken a fin or two my self  |
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Post by tommyhnavix on Dec 9, 2012 17:22:30 GMT -5
Tapping on the side of the flywheel can scramble the magnet in the flywheel and weaken it's strength over time. One fin broken of may cause a slight vibration. Breaking off the opposite one will make the vibration worse. You will have to decide if you can live with the vibration. If you are just going to use the saw for short periods of time and it doesn't make your arms numb leave it as is. If you are going to use it a lot or the vibration seems to much, by all means replace the flywheel. Some times short cuts can cost you more than you planned Glad you shared tough . It is better to learn from someone else's mistake before you make the same one Tom I have also broken a fin or two my self Last time I broke one the saw got scooted off the work bench and landed on the concrete floor. OPPSSSSS!!!! |
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Post by riseandrun on Dec 9, 2012 18:32:43 GMT -5
I just noticed this tonight, the flywheel that I used as a reference has 2 fins broke off, and they are across from each other!! Hope it's not a lister. I'm going to ask him if the saw vibrated with the broken fins.:-)
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Post by dancbx on Dec 15, 2012 18:24:48 GMT -5
is a C51 the same to remove clutch? LH thread?
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